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They are all "Bigfoot"

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They are all "Bigfoot"

Post  Tzieth on Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:49 am

Finally I found a sight that seems to agree with what I always thought.(http://www.newanimal.org/h-human.htm). The word "Bigfoot" has become so generic, that do we really even know what we are looking for? We could possibly have five different Hominids and even a few apes in the U.S. alone, but every researcher seems to be looking for one creature they call "Bigfoot".

It is to the point that they dismiss certain peoples eye-witness sightings simply because it does not fit the description of what they are looking for. I was watching old Documentaries about "Bigfoot" from the 70's and 80's and one guy was stating that he believed the P/G film to be a hoax because he "saw Bigfoot and Bigfoot looked nothing like that." Where other eye-witnesses claim "P/G is exactly what I saw!" (My mother included)

Then you have cryptologist's that are open minded to the point of stupidity. They believe all accounts are the same creature, but the witness must have been so tramatized that they got their facts wrong. (Skeptics must love those types.) A prime example of this was what I thought was an Urban Legend that turned out to be true.

The Goat Man! Almost every one of my generation that grew up in the Dallas/Fort Worth area has heard of it and it was always the same story, only the location changed. Dallas County Kids said it happened at either White Rock Lake, or Lake Ray Hubbard. Tarrant County Kids said it happened at either Eagle Mountain Lake, or Lake Worth. As it turns out, Lake Worth was correct. And unlike Bigfoot, This thing was witnessed by many people at once including the local Police Department as it was making a spectacle of it's self.

" The Lake Worth monster reportedly appeared to many people in Lake Worth, Texas during 1969. It was described as looking a bit like a white-furred ape, except that it often had fish scales and goat features, making it look something like a satyr. It had goat legs, scales on its face and hands, and was an excellent swimmer. When chased, it prefered to retreat into the water. These characteristics make it seem as if it is related to the mermaid tradition as well. The Lake Worth monster thus combines a mermaid, a satyr and Bigfoot all in one creature.

Even though its appearance is extremely bizarre, there was so much evidence for this cryptid that these reports ended up getting taken very seriously by many researchers. Some people have tried to resolve the obvious biological absurdities involved in this big hairy monster by concluding that there were at least two varieties, with one being more like a normal Bigfoot. Other believers explained away the hooves and scales by deciding that the Lake Worth monster was a normal Bigfoot suffering from some scaley skin disease and/or had club feet.
" So it couldn't just be a Goat Man, but a deformed Bigfoot? lol But in 1999 someone fessed up to hoaxing it, but there is debate on that as 1) The creature was shot and the shooter does not think he missed, and 2) the said hoaxers story of how he threw a tire complete with rim 500 feet, does not add up.

But Hoax or not, here is a creature that clearly does not fit into the description of "Bigfoot" yet it's called "Bigfoot."

I will copy paste from http://www.newanimal.org/bigfoot.htm to show how different each HB is:
""Bigfoot" is a term that is applied in two ways. In its widest sense, it is applied to every type of hairy humanoid from all over the world, regardless of that hairy humanoid's characteristics. In other words, it is a catch-all category that is applied to every variety of legendary ape-man by those who don't know better.
In its more correct sense, "Bigfoot" applies to a certain type of hairy humanoid that is frequently reported in the Pacific Northwest area of America (roughly the states of Washington, Oregon and the northern part of California) and also found in similar habitats in western Canada, possibly as far north as Alaska. This type has a relatively stable set of characteristics and is often viewed as the standard Bigfoot.
The standard Bigfoot has a rather consistent appearance. Adults are described as six to nine feet tall, heavily built, and muscular, with large feet and a sagittal crest on top of the head, giving the head a somewhat pointed, elongated look, like a bullet. The forehead itself is generally sloping, suggesting a brain that has more in common with apes (or very primitive men) than modern humans. The entire body is covered with thick, shaggy fur of about the same length, without longer hair on the head. The body shape is often compared to a professional football player or a bodybuilder, with large muscles and a solid physique. Footprints measure fifteen inches long on average, with five toes. Behavior towards humans can be aggressive, but is seldom anything worse than a threat display.

The creatures are often sighted in family groups, with arrangements that would suggest they seem to follow the human rule of pair-bonding with one male and one female staying together to raise their young. They seldom use tools more sophisticated than a branch, do not wear clothing, and cannot speak, although they have a wide variety of calls that might count as language to another Bigfoot. They seem to be highly nomadic, occasionally sheltering in caves, but seeming to not stay in one area longer than a night or two. Those who believe in them think that their diet is probably mostly plant food such as tender leaves and acorns, along with some meat sources such as snails, frogs and scavenged deer carcasses.

This standard Bigfoot is not the only hairy humanoid to be reported from the Pacific Northwest of North America. Other beings that do not fit the standard model are also sighted, including true giants, marked hominids and many types of BHMs (big hairy monsters) of a decidedly paranormal character.

In recent years, the efforts of serious cryptozoologists to make the discipline sound more respectable has led many to discard the term "Bigfoot" as unscientific, replacing it with sasquatch. Some other researchers use "Bigfoot" for standard Bigfoot reports from the Pacific Northwest and reserve "sasquatch" for the Canadian Bigfoot. However, in general the two terms can be used interchangably."


ALMAS


"Described as looking like humans, but with fur covering most of the body, the almas (or almasti) is a variety of wildman or Bigfoot that is reported from the Altai Mountains in Mongolia and the Tien Shan Mountains in China (near the border with Mongolia). Sometimes, researchers consider the almas to have a much wider range, and the term is applied to any Bigfoot-like creature reported from Mongolia or regions of the former Soviet Union. For example, the abnauayu of the Caucasus Mountains is sometimes considered identical to the almas. Also called the bnahua and the ochokochi, this ape-man is reported from the regions near Armenia, a long way from the border of China and Mongolia.

The body hair of almas is often described as curly, the jaws are large, and the eyebrow ridges are heavy. Visible areas of skin on the face, hands and feet are usually dark. The body hair is usually described as red or reddish-brown, sometimes as black. Most reports indicate an adult height of about five feet, but some describe a creature as tall as six and a half feet. Available evidence seems to indicate that the almas near the border of Mongolia and China, if they exist, have been split into two populations which are rapidly dying out. Some researchers in the field of cryptozoology consider almas to be neanderthals. Almas are also called almasti in some reports.


Maero

"The maero are described by the Maori (the native race of New Zealand) as looking much like themselves, except that the maero were bigger and had shaggy hair growing all over their bodies. The maero were exceptionally strong, even for their size. They did not wear clothes and had few of the trappings of civilization, though they did use stone clubs. According to traditional history and folklore, the maero were more or less constantly at war with the Maori. As a result of this war, the maero had been driven into the most rugged and inhospitable areas, where they barely survived, in small numbers. The maero would kill any human beings they happened to come across, and they seemed to have no cannibalism taboo, because they generally ate these victims.

The maero, unlike other mythical creatures of New Zealand, are endowed with little or nothing in the way of supernatural powers. They usually seem quite natural. Also, there are tales about humans of gigantic stature that are supposed to represent crossbreeding between Maori and maero. This trait is said to run in families, such as the Kaihai family of Waikato and the Haupapa family of Rotorua. Although these families produce big people today, it is said that these are nothing compared to the specimens they once produced - gigantic, muscular men who were perhaps between 8 feet and 11 feet tall. This idea parallels Tibetan reports of the yeti and humans interbreeding.

It is thought that the maero, if they ever existed, might be extinct today. To complicate the picture, the maero is often confused with two types of fairy folk from Maori mythology. One is the patu-paiarehe, the fair-skinned "mist people" with supernatural powers, who sound curiously like Europeans (with instances of red hair and blue eyes) but reportedly date from long before any European influence. The other is the Maori ogres, flesh-eating giants who are usually not so hairy as the maero and are also endowed with supernatural powers. The maero is sometimes called the mairoero."


Marked Hominids

"Marked hominids are a variety of ape-men that seems closer to human than ape. Like wildmen the world over, they look a lot like humans that happen to have fur growing over much of their bodies. However, they are stronger and bigger than most humans. The typical marked hominid is built like a professional football player, with heavy, wide, muscular shoulders, and a neck so wide and short that it almost seems like the head is connected directly to the body. The main characteristic, from which marked hominids get their name, is the fur colors. Marked hominids have a large number of albino members, and even their "ordinary" members are often marred by patches of white or blonde that look silly on a brown background. One example of a marked hominid may be the Canadian Bigfoot that locals have named Old Yellow Top.

Marked hominids also differ from the typical Bigfoot in their behavior and preferred habitat. They are one of the few types of hairy humanoid to sometimes wear clothing, and they seem to possess more intelligence and tools than usual. In habitat, they prefer areas that are farther to the north than Bigfoot is generally sighted, especially northern Canada, Alaska and Siberia."


NAPES (North American Apes)

"The word "napes" was invented by the researcher Loren Coleman to describe reports of North American apes. These creatures are distinct from Bigfoot and his cousins because, instead of seeming like something halfway between a human and an ape, the creatures in these reports seem rather like actual apes. They tend to walk on all fours with only brief moments of bipedalism, leaving knuckle-prints with their hands. Napes are usually described as resembling chimps. Napes are supposed to be distinct from both the skunk-apes and the giant monkeys that are also reported from North America, although they can be confused with both of the former cryptids, and some creatures present an intermediate mix of characteristics that make them hard to classify.
Napes are said to prefer swamps that are large and still wild, such as the Florida everglades, but they are reported from other areas of Florida and, in smaller numbers, throughout the southeastern United States. Since the New World is not supposed to have any native apes, only monkeys, these populations seem most likely to represent feral populations of discarded pets or lab animals. However, some researchers working in the field of cryptozoology think that North America does have an undiscovered ape. The more chimp-like napes often present an overall look that seems different from actual chimps, and they are frequently reported to swim, an act that is supposed to be impossible for real chimps."
(On that note, if you look up "Skunk ape" not to be confused with the much more foul smelling, "StankApe" you will find that the earlier the reports, the more ape-like they are. The foot prints are even Hand like. The Hominid shaped foot prints are a relatively new phenomena for Florida. So like the Many things called "Bigfoot" you might have two different creatures now called "Skunk Ape")

Sisemite

"The sisimite is a hairy humanoid that is reported from the Guarunta Mountains of Central America and nearby wild areas in Guatemala. They look like ape-men, often described as having shaggy hair so long that it sweeps the ground as they walk. Their screams are loud and piercing, and they prefer hilly or mountainous country with few human inhabitants.

In Chorti Indian folklore, the sisemite is a rapist who abducts human women. It has supernatural powers and is appointed as a kind of guardian of the wilderness. It will attack hunters in order to protect wildlife. In these features, the sisemite resembles the hairy forest ogres of South American folklore."


Neanderthaloids

"The Neanderthals are a separate species of human than homo sapiens, the kind we are. They were robust, short people with strong muscles, with far heavier bones than modern humans, and with larger brains than us, despite their reputation for stupidity in popular culture. They were a very successful species in their time. Their ancestors left Africa far earlier than our ancestors did, and the Neanderthals lived in cold climates during the ice ages for so long that they became evolutionarily adapted to cold weather, something that modern humans haven't had time to do. As far as our adaptations go, we are still tropical animals. The Neanderthals had fire, made tools (including flutes), buried their dead and had some sort of religion. The last of them went extinct about thirty thousand years ago in Europe, according to today's science.

This has not stopped people from reporting Neanderthals (or things that sound much like them, the Neanderthaloids) in modern times. Footprints of Neanderthals in these modern sightings are said to look just like real Neanderthal footprints that have been found in caves. These modern Neanderthals are described as very hairy, short humans. Many of them are nearly as hairy as Bigfoot. They have heavy brow ridges, use some tools and may or may not wear clothing, depending on how hairy they are and how cold it is at the moment. Both sexes tend to have red hair, and the males have a distinct beard of longer hair running along the edges of their chins.

These reports come from two areas: the Pacific Northwest of North America (including parts of America and Canada) and Central Asia (an area between Europe and China that is roughly bordered by the countries of China, India, Pakistan, Iran, Turkey and the Balkan states). Some researchers say that Bigfoot sightings are really of Neanderthals. Some researchers say that reports of Neanderthals are really of Neanderthaloids, a separate class of beings that look similar to Neanderthals but are something else. Neanderthaloids may be a race that resulted from hybridization between Neanderthals and homo sapiens, they might be a separate species, so far undiscovered, that is related to Neanderthals or is simply like them in outward appearance, or they might be very primitive members of our own species that happen to look like Neanderthals."


Orang-pendek

"Reported from the island of Sumatra in Indonesia, the orang-pendek is described a red-furred bipedal ape-man about four feet tall. It is supposed to be attractive and graceful, and has been sighted by many natives. Westerners have seen this creature regularly since 1923, but numerous expeditions have failed to find anything better than footprints and hairs that don't test as any known creature. Some people think the orang-pendek is a new species of ground-dwelling bipedal orangutan, while others favor the idea of a very primitive human.

Recently, much more attention has been focused on legends of the orang-pendek because of the discovery of the Indonesian "hobbit" or Homo floresiensis on the nearby island of Flores in 2003. Homo floresiensis is an extremely small species of human that was known to have survived at least until 12,000 years ago, which means it likely co-existed on the island with modern homo sapiens. According to local legend, which names Homo floresiensis the ebu gogo, it survived until at least the year 1900, and may still be alive today. Some researchers think that the orang-pendek is the same species as the ebu gogo. The orang-pendek is often classified as a proto-pygmy, a type of smaller, more human-like hairy humanoid.

This renewed interest, coupled with the extremely remote area the orang-pendek is supposed to inhabit, has caused even mainstream scientists to label the orang-pendek as the hairy humanoid that is most likely to be a real creature. There had been very little investigation of the orang-pendek before 2003. Like many cryptids, it was categorized as a legend early on, without any professionally funded expeditions to see whether there might be any good reasons for the legends. It often happens that when a creature has been categorized as a myth for long enough, everyone just assumes a scientist must have done the work to properly disprove its existence at some point.

Now we know that the earlier investigations were little more than folklore-collecting expeditions, generally self-funded, that nevertheless managed to bring back some circumstantial physical evidence that has proved genuinely puzzling to experts. Now that the spotlight has singled out this little cousin of Bigfoot, there is a chance that it might receive enough attention to settle the mystery once and for all."


Yeren

"The yeren, otherwise known as the Chinese wildman, is a hairy humanoid reported from the dense forests of China. About man-sized, it has distinctive red hair. Unfortunately, the same term may be used to cover several different ape-like cryptids, such as the mainland orangutan, leading to confusion for those who want to learn about the yeren.

The yeren usually sounds like a bipedal, more human-like version of an orangutan. It could be an orangutan that has evolved to fill a more ground-dwelling niche, with associated bipedalism and thus it ends up looking like a Bigfoot or missing link through sheer coincidence. Bipedalism has evolved independently in the ape family at least two times, so it is at least slightly possible that this has happened yet again with an isolated population of orangutans.

In some reports, yeren sound less like bipedal orangutans and more like standard ape-men such as Bigfoot. These reports typically describe a creature varying between six and seven feet tall, with a heavy, muscular build and anatomical features that lean more towards the human side than towards the ape side. Fur colors are also more variable, with less instances of red. Some reports in this category sound so human-like than the yeren is thought by some researchers to be a primitive species of human, such as a Neanderthal man."


Yeti

"The words "yeti" and "abominable snowman" are applied to several types of hairy humanoids similar to North America's Bigfoot, but these creatures are distinct from Bigfoot because they are reported from a different continent altogether.
The Himalaya Mountains of Tibet and Nepal are the homeland of these legendary creatures. The two terms "yeti" and "abominable snowman" are sometimes applied to creatures from other remote areas of Asia as well.
Cryptozoologists and other serious researchers prefer the term "yeti" over "abominable snowman" because "yeti" sounds more scientific and because it is not based on a mistranslation of a native word, as "abominable snowman" is.

The most picky cryptozoologists refer to each individual type of yeti by its own native name, dzu-teh for the biggest, hulking giants who sometimes walk on all fours and seem half bear, half ape, meh-teh for the "classic" yeti that stands about six feet tall and has a pointed top of the head, and teh-lma for the three-foot-tall frog-eating yeti that makes its home in steamy jungle valleys between mountains (sometimes thought to be a juvenile yeti by researchers).

The teh-lma is the most human-like of the yetis and is thought to be a race of primitive humans by some researchers, compared to the proto-pygmies. It is also the most ignored of the yetis. Very little research has been focused on it recently, although several decades ago, when it was lumped in with the meh-teh more often than not, this little yeti was more in the spotlight.

The dzu-teh is thought by many researchers to be a bear. It has claws and carnivorous habits, in addition to its bear-like appearance.
However, many cryptozoologists think that, if it is a bear, it must be a new species of bear, because the descriptions don't sound like any known species.

The meh-teh is the subject of the most research, and is the only variety of yeti that most people hear about these days. Whenever you've read about the yeti before, it is likely you were reading about the meh-teh, the classic yeti that sounds most similar to Bigfoot. It looks something like a cross between a gorilla and a man. It could not easily be mistaken for a bear.

Even though it has long, shaggy hair, it is actually supposed to be a valley-dweller, like all other varieties of yeti. The snow-capped peaks don't contain enough food for such a creature to live there, but it is said the meh-teh often has to go through high mountain passes to travel from one valley to another, where it becomes highly visible to human observers and sightings are most likely to take place. In its forested, remote valleys, it is supposed to be nearly impossible to locate, living in a remote territory much like the panda, which eluded researchers for sixty years after its discovery.

Even though the yeti (at least the meh-teh) is one of the best documented of the hairy humanoids, it is also one of the most disputed. Native folklore has heavily obscured whatever real animal or animals that might possibly exist behind the mythology.

According to legend, the yeti is a spiritual being, not an animal. It is sometimes worshipped, attributed with many supernatural powers, and is said to interbreed with humans.

In addition, some legends say that there is no actual breeding population of yetis. Instead, each yeti is actually the transmogrified quasi-solid ghost of a dead human.

Other local mythology states that the yetis are actually demons that have been assigned to guard mountains, so that humans do not ascend to the peaks and disturb the gods who live there. If this is true, then the yetis have failed miserably in their task to keep people from climbing Mt. Everest.

With western observers involved, the picture can get clouded too. The yeti has been shown to be confused with actual humans, bears and even suggestive-looking rocks on some occasions.

In popular culture, the picture gets even more confusing, with the label "yeti" being applied haphazrdly to any Bigfoot-like creature anywhere in the world, even though it should technically apply only to those creatures reported from Himalaya Mountains of Tibet and Nepal, or at the very least to those from Asia."


Skunk Ape

"Skunk-apes are hairy humanoids sighted in many areas of North America, but especially in swamps, and especially in the South. They are held distinct from Bigfoot by having a different home range (Bigfoot is generally considered as being restricted to the Pacific Northwest) and by having both a different physical appearance and a different set of habits ascribed to them. The Florida variety of skunk-ape is sometimes referred to as the "Florida Sandman" and other local varieties often have local nicknames.
At least two, if not three, distinct varieties of skunk-ape exist in these legends. This is partly because the definition of skunk-ape has varied from one cryptozoologist to the next and because this definition has also evolved over time. Another reason why it is hard to think of the skunk-ape as just one kind of creature is because the creatures in these reports show enough natural variation that it is hard to lump them all together.

The most consistent characteristic ascribed to skunk-apes is the smell. It is generally said that all of them have a rather extreme odor that is nauseating. In other respects, the definition varies. In the past, this horrible odor was the one characteristic used to define a skunk-ape, but today more non-smelly beasts are given the label of "skunk-ape." Some skunk-apes are generally said look something like Bigfoot, but they tend to be really large, and sometimes have oversized heads that look more monster-like than ape-like. Other creatures labeled as skunk-apes look more like a cross between a dog, a giant monkey, and a kangaroo.

The fur color of skunk-apes is usually dark, with many individuals who are black or deep brown, and there may be a tail. When it exists, this tail is often bushy like the tail of a wolf or fox (thus linking skunk-apes to North American devil monkeys). Some individuals are described as particularly big, up to ten feet tall, but the average height seems to be about six feet.

Skunk-ape feet are often described as being different from Bigfoot, especially in terms of the foot shape and the number of toes. Skunk-ape toe numbers are sometimes quite variable, with three-toed footprints often being found.
Since the number of toes is one of the slowest-changing features as a species evolves, it is not generally thought that a primate could have developed such a foot. This leaves a lot of problems for those who hope to prove that skunk-apes with atypical feet are real creatures, because the skunk-apes' feet really ought to match up to biological expectations better.

Skunk-apes tend to be very aggressive towards dogs, and are often reported as carnivorous. In any case, they seem to kill a lot of livestock, especially the smaller varieties such as goats and chickens. Every so often, a panic breaks out about the idea that skunk-apes are about to start eating humans, but reports of man-eating are extremely rare and often based on very old legends, so that it cannot be verified that anyone even died, let alone that an unidentified creature killed them.

All too often, skunk-apes exhibit paranormal characteristics as well in these reports, features that make them decidedly unattractive to cryptozoologists who hope to uncover a new species instead of a mere urban legend. They may be described as having glowing red eyes, or they might be bulletproof at close range or have other weird abilities. Like many mythical creatures, they seem to be mysteriously attracted to anyone who has sex in a car in a remote area. Most of them are bipedal, but they show a tendency to drop to all fours and run that way at times.

Some creatures labeled as skunk-apes seem very much like known primates, especially chimps and orangutans. These sightings could represent feral populations that have developed from abandoned pets or lab animals, and this is the interpretation given to skunk-ape reports by some researchers working in the field of cryptozoology. However, mystery hairy humanoids that resemble known primates are more properly known as napes, short for "North American apes."

The Florida variety of skunk-ape is seen most often in swampy areas such as the Everglades. Florida skunk-apes tend to be more physically normal than skunk-apes found elsewhere, so that some researchers define them as a unique type that is much more likely to turn out to be a real species. Some people think that these creatures smell so bad because they spend most of their time in underground dens, curled up with carrion stolen from alligators. It is said that this underground lifestyle is the also the reason why they are rarely sighted and have not yet been captured by scientists.

Since certain types of skunk-apes often sound more like supernatural creatures such as werewolves or hairy ogres from some fairy tale than a legitimate variety of Bigfoot, and even the more normal varieties often suffer from other weird characteristics that seem unlikely from a biological viewpoint, skunk-apes have a credibility problem and they have received less attention and funding in the cryptozoological community than their more respectable cousins in the Pacific Northwest. Some examples of famous skunk-apes include the Honey Island Swamp Monster, the Fouke Monster, Momo, the Myakka Skunk-Ape, the Green Chimp, the Holopaw Gorilla, the Abominable Swamp Slob and the Everglades Ape."


I don't know how old this Cryptozoo is, but it seems to be pre-Southern Sasquatch) Momo, and the Fouke Monster are now in the "Southern Sasquatch" label. But this is my point. Look at how many creatures could fall under "Skunk Ape" alone. And now EVERYTHING that is hairy and walks on two legs is Bigfoot.
Our fossil records show many distinct species of hominids and the theory is we wiped them out? lol It does not make sense. The theory is that it was over Competition for food. What competition? They were all nocturnal according to their eye-sockets. They had the night shift and we had the day shift. Bears eat the same stuff we eat, why weren't they wiped out? Lions, Tigers? Hell how did deer survive this long with EVERYTHING eating them?

fossil evidence shows that bears also inhabited the grasslands along side humans (Other wise we would not have the fossils.) I think it was human urbanization that drove bears into the forests. This probably drove the other hominids into the forests as well. Just because they "vanish" from the fossil record does not mean they went extinct. There are no fossil records for chimps at all, and yet here they are.

I have no doubt that all these HB's that we call "Bigfoot" are the very same guys in our fossils but how will we ever find out if we can't even make up our minds as to what defines "Bigfoot"?
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Re: They are all "Bigfoot"

Post  dingo3497 on Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:01 am

Very interesting read, thanks!
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they are all Bigfoot

Post  MylesLI on Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:05 am

very well presented.. Thanks for the outstanding effort on this
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Re: They are all "Bigfoot"

Post  CMcMillan on Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:13 am

TZ thank you for this write up.
This is why I have always said "This creature we call Bigfoot" I agree the generic term BIGFOOT is described to all these different variations.

I like to think of Sasquatch as the Patty (Big foot) or the one in the recent shootings. If you look at the sketch artist sketches.

I do believe since we don't have anyone actually sitting down and classifying the different sightings by "shape" size and look.
I think once someone does this we may be able to track them better knowing which one you may have seen.
we can start to get an idea of how each one behaves.
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Re: They are all "Bigfoot"

Post  Tzieth on Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:07 pm

Thanks, Guys.. But I completely forgot to add Yowie lol. And it looks like Australia's Yowie might also be multiple Hominids sharing one title.
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That's great

Post  Blondie1 on Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:14 pm

Thanks Tz! I knew you could contribute sooooo much here! Way to go!
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Re: They are all "Bigfoot"

Post  Green911 on Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:11 pm

Awesome post. elephant

Thanks for the info. I really enjoyed reading it.
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Re: They are all "Bigfoot"

Post  timex on Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:08 pm

Tzieth, I thank You!

This was a great post, thank you for taking the time.

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Sasquatch have human-like hair

Post  sasquatch sue on Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:50 am

According to an expert on sasquatch hair, Dr. Henner Fahrenbach, sasquatch have human-like hair not fur. He says that the color may be black, red, brown, blonde, gray or albino white. But never spotted like a dog or horse. The hair may be curly or straight, and is very fine in texture. Microscopically, the hair shows that it has a red medulla...and is one of the few ways to tell it from a human hair. It, also, shows no sign of ever being cut or dyed. Perhaps, Dr. Fahrenbach will reconsider not having cut hair when a hair from the bangs of some female sasquatch is sumitted for examination.
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Re: They are all "Bigfoot"

Post  Tzieth on Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:19 pm

sasquatch sue wrote:According to an expert on sasquatch hair, Dr. Henner Fahrenbach, sasquatch have human-like hair not fur. He says that the color may be black, red, brown, blonde, gray or albino white. But never spotted like a dog or horse. The hair may be curly or straight, and is very fine in texture. Microscopically, the hair shows that it has a red medulla...and is one of the few ways to tell it from a human hair. It, also, shows no sign of ever being cut or dyed. Perhaps, Dr. Fahrenbach will reconsider not having cut hair when a hair from the bangs of some female sasquatch is sumitted for examination.

Yes that is the problem... If these are all real and we are basing everything on one creature, then we could be actually creating a creature that does not exist at all. Okay we have sightings of "Sasquatch" (Patty). We hear noises in the night that cannot be identified and some Bigwig Scientist confirms it is an unknown creature. We found hair samples on tree bark that is confirmed to not match any known creature. And we just assume "Bigfoot" without taking into account that "Bigfoot" could be one of eight different things. What if the hair we find are from Neanderthaliods, the footprints, are from Sasquatch, the howls are from Dog-man, the "Babies" we see such as New York footage and Jacobs creature, actually Napes?

Skeptics like to yell out "Confusing known animals for Bigfoot." But we could just as easily be confusing many unknown animals as one thing.
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Sasquatch have human-like hair

Post  sasquatch sue on Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:51 am

The hair that Dr. Fahrenbach has is the gold standard for sasquatch hair. It would be best to ask him for the details. But I will say that each sample was associated with a verified sasquatch sighting. Let's say a sasquatch was observed scratching his back on a rough tree trunk. After he walked away, the tree would be examined for hair. The hair would be sent to a group (say BFRO) and they would forward it to Dr. Fahrenbach for microscopic examination.
Dr. Fahrenbach is retired from the Oregon Regional Primate Center where he was an expert on the subelectron microscope. He is a quiet and modest man with many published scientific papers to his credit. He seeks no glory, just truth. He could easily determine if a specimen is fresh or old, if it came from a bear, a goat, or dog, etc. Most of the specimens sent to him by individuals are not sasquatch hair. But, a few have actually been determined to be,after great
scrutiny real sasquatch hair. If Dr. Fahrenbach with his expertise and experience says a hair is sasquatch hair, I believe him.
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Re: They are all "Bigfoot"

Post  GT3Paul on Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:16 am

I agree with you. I dont think there is any doubt that there are many types of species of BigFoot.
I havent heard this till just awhile ago but the numbers 11,160 and 11,170 are supposed to be the
number of different species of Bigfoots. i have no info to back that up. However if you follow
Scott Carpenter, he has brought up the issue of Dogman and Bigfoot. Where as Dog man is meaner
and less apt to be seen. So no doubt we arent all looking for the same thing.
BTW I grew up on Lake Ray Hubbard and I dont remember hearing any thing about a monster. But
I remember the Lake Worth thing
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Re: They are all "Bigfoot"

Post  I AM THE BLOBSQUATCH on Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:21 am

Excellent pat and EXACTLY what I have been thinking! The nuclear DNA contributor is a Bigfoot, like Patty. These hybrids are something different, but people have seen them also. They are the WILDMAN, I think

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