Bfro's New Trackway Find? Not London Tracks..
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I only have my side of the story to tell... (sorry about it being nonlinear)...
Early in the morning of 9/17/2012, I was shown a cell phone picture of a purported Bigfoot track and then taken out to a vehicle in the parking lot at work and shown a cast from the same incident. I was immediately impressed. The individual asked me if I wanted a part of this and I whole heartedly agreed, left early from work and got supplies, meeting this individual at his home. It took an hour to get to the site from there, but before we left his home he showed me 5 other casts he had made the day before. He did a very good job in casting.
I was led out on to a lake’s sand cover shoreline at about 5:00PM the same day, and after walking over a drift wood obstacle course, towards the water, it wasn’t long before I recognized several tracks as that coming from a large human shaped foot. The further along the pathway we went the better the tracks looked. This path led us down closer to the water’s edge, backtracked a bit then dropped down a 10 foot embankment as if to hide from prying eyes. This made me think immediately that whatever made the tracks was trying to hide from the road, which was about 400 yards away to the north. The further we walked along the maker’s trail the more impressed I was. There was quite a bit of toe movement and flexion, skin detail and varying depths as it traversed dry and wet sand, mud and silt. I took a picture of each and every track I found, in sequence as we walked the trail way. It looks as if there might be two individuals making the tracks (a 15” and 17”). There were other smaller barefoot tracks, obviously human, but the big ones were definitely different.
The track way also indicated to me that the individuals making them broke walking together early on and went separate ways, and that this may of taken place in daylight hours. I walked the entire track way and saw 5 foot strides whittle down to mere inches apart. The area the stride was reduced of course was at the bottom of that 10 foot shoreline, where the footing was in muddy silt and approaching a 45 degree angle. All in all, I counted over 200 separate tracks too large to be human.
I identified 6 tracks I thought I wanted to cast and proceeded to document them. I actually cast 7 tracks but gave one away to a researcher on the scene. These are very clear tracks. They are either real or fake, not misinterpreted. I don’t think they are fake by the context and terrain they were found traversing. I think I have gained some insight in to the creatures behavior with this find. I was going to contact a long time scientific college but since he started working with a group that seems at odds with me, this is the first time I have spoken of the find.
I don’t know what exactly went down in Oregon a while back, but the pictures all seem to be hiding their inefficiencies by using theatrical lighting. Here are some pictures of tracks and the casts I made. There were others there who took pictures and made casts, but that is their story to tell, not mine.
These tracks are not ambiguous except in that we have no definitive identity of their maker’s. They indicate a morphology consistent with all vested reports from many diverse research groups and is exactly what I would expect to see given the soil conditions, size of the tracks and the terrain it traversed. The behavior is consistent with the huge clouds of red smoke over hanging the Cascade mountains from large forest fires, giving a very good reason for the animals to come down from up high… they probably preffer the upper shoot meadows as a safer and cooler place to be during the summer. Animals that travel up and down mountain sides are pretty susceptible to adverse breathing conditions and probably move out of an area as quickly as possible when smoke is detected. The problem is that the area these animals moved from might not have been populated with their kind for years and so this theory is very hard to test without years and years of forest fire reports collated against Sasquatch reports.
As far as food, water, sex and shelter, we saw apples, berries, frogs, a lake, lots of forest and maybe the two track sizes are indicating the opposite sex was there as well. Why they separated is unknown.
Good to see some really good evidence crop up again. Disappointed with almost everything else I seen recently from the PNW.
At two points after the individual down below the shoreline drop off slid a bit as it walked along maintaining a low profile, it had to cross over its feet to move the lower slopped leg above the other. It doesn’t look like much but when I tried to do it, no way. My feet were covered in muck and my legs not strong enough to reach that far up slope.
What looked like good footing on the rocks exposed and dry are really misleading for they are still in the wet muck beneath and will easily sink with weight applied. They did on me.
The pictures are copyrighted. Only the research group that shared them with me and myself can reproduce them.
These tracks and casts are going to set a new standard. They have a lot of detail on the skin surface.
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CMcMillan- Posts : 1097
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Read about this last night. Sounds like a good find if it is real. From what I read, there are alot oif investigators up there. Supposedly, Cliff Barackman is/was up there investigating. Pretty cool find. The track line is about 45 min from my house and the smoke from the fire is pretty bad, even around my area. Hopefully, we will get some good info and full disclosure from this one. We shall see!!
letsfindem- Posts : 41
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The trackline is around the small town of Elbe, WA. About a half an hour outside of Eatonville, WA. From the description of the area, it probably happened on the eastern edge of alder lake which butts up to the town of Elbe. There is a river that empties into the lake here and during the summer months, the water drops drastically leaving large portions of the lake in thick mud. There is a dam, on the western side of the lake. Just a guess. I know the area fairly well...
letsfindem- Posts : 41
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Thanks letsfindem
Thanks, I wondered if I missed the location when I was reading the article. I don't have a lot of time so just scanned it. I find that very interesting.
Blondie1- Posts : 344
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Give them time to do a full investigation on everything to before we get to real or hoaxed, it is interesting something like this takes a little time to digest before a definite conclusion can be made...
Buk Was Here- Posts : 33
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this track way Is amazing!
I can't wait for more about it to come out.
Damn I would be wanting to place camera traps all over the place.
I can't wait for more about it to come out.
Damn I would be wanting to place camera traps all over the place.
CMcMillan- Posts : 1097
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Very strange that the caster did not realize he was casting his own size 10 feet until more notable experts arrived and determined they were definitely human. Very,very sketchy to me. I also am not very comfortable with the depression the supposed bigfoot prints made or did not make. I want to believe, but not on this one. IMO
dingo3497- Posts : 80
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Got to be real on this one myself...
I need to see a lot more than I've seen. Until then I reserve judgement and comment. I do find some Red Flags that say hoax to me.
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Isn't that Thom Powell?
Isn't that Thom Powell in the picture?
Oh..I see his name now..duh!
Oh..I see his name now..duh!
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Blondie1- Posts : 344
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http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bigfootfieldreporter/2012/09/21/bfro-members-discover-epic-trackway
Derek Randles of Olympic Project
Cliff BrackMan of Finding Bigfoot
Guy Edwards of Bigfoot Lunch Club
were some of the people at the location
Listen to the Radio
I believe this is a actual track way of a bigfoot.
Derek Randles of Olympic Project
Cliff BrackMan of Finding Bigfoot
Guy Edwards of Bigfoot Lunch Club
were some of the people at the location
Listen to the Radio
I believe this is a actual track way of a bigfoot.
CMcMillan- Posts : 1097
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Tracks in general (for me) are hard to digest. I'm a believer but it would be easy to hoax & not with some cheesy wood cut out strapped to your feet but with rubber molds. I just ordered a molding kit for an invention I'm working on & making a larger version of my own foot wouldn't be too difficult. I'm not saying all casts are fake I'm just always a little skeptical when it comes to footprints. Not only that it would never prove anything no matter how good the impression was. Unfortunately a body will be needed to prove it to the world. IMO who cares if the world knows of their existence. I've talked to plenty of people & asked what they would think if a sasquatch was discovered & they could care less. Which to me is crazy because I would probably have a fricken party if it was proven to be real.
Mr.Lee- Posts : 60
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I find it more then strange that until recently {London tracks} and now these that their really has not been a stretch of tracks of this magnitude. Now in less then a year we have 2 different multiple sets of tracks. Either elaborate hoaxes or bigfoot is being less cautious about leaving sign of his whereabouts.
dingo3497- Posts : 80
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Or people are just more aware because of shows like Finding Bigfoot
CMcMillan- Posts : 1097
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dingo3497 wrote:I find it more then strange that until recently {London tracks} and now these that their really has not been a stretch of tracks of this magnitude. Now in less then a year we have 2 different multiple sets of tracks. Either elaborate hoaxes or bigfoot is being less cautious about leaving sign of his whereabouts.
I wonder how close these were to the fires?
Blondie1- Posts : 344
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GREAT POINT - They may not had a choice of direction of travel, therefore exposing themselves to the open when they normally would not.
dingo3497- Posts : 80
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I wonder how close these were to the fires? [/quote]
Not very close blondie. The trackway is on the western side of the cascades and the fires are in central cascades closer to eastern wa. Table Mountain Complex fire is roughly 150 miles away northeast of Elbe. We are still getting alot of smoke when winds and conditions are just right. I live about 25 miles north of elbe.
Not very close blondie. The trackway is on the western side of the cascades and the fires are in central cascades closer to eastern wa. Table Mountain Complex fire is roughly 150 miles away northeast of Elbe. We are still getting alot of smoke when winds and conditions are just right. I live about 25 miles north of elbe.
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