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Football, replacement refs, Packers/Seahawks????

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Football, replacement refs, Packers/Seahawks????

Post  Blondie1 on Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:48 pm

I would really like to know what you think about what happened in the Packers game and about the replacement refs?

http://seattletimes.com/html/seahawks/2019258711_theplay26.html?prmid=4939
Great article by the way.

Here's one of the video's.
http://www.youtube.com/v/TXDs1YQO04k&fs=1&source=uds&autoplay=1

What exactly are replacement refs? Have they had the training the reg refs had? Have they been in retirement?
Where did they come from?
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Shocking...

Post  ***** on Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:52 pm

What's most shocking to me is how unprepared the NFL was for this eventuality. If they truly had planned on locking out the officials why not have reasonably competent and qualified replacements waiting in the wings.

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Post  Blondie1 on Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:07 pm

NobleSavage wrote:What's most shocking to me is how unprepared the NFL was for this eventuality. If they truly had planned on locking out the officials why not have reasonably competent and qualified replacements waiting in the wings.

Very true and it's backfiring badly in their faces.
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Post  letsfindem on Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:14 pm

The NFL is making a slow decline to a second rate organization. They are still very reputable and drawing in mass money/viewers. But if they do not do something soon, they are going to lose it all. They have a chance to stop the bleeding and solve the problem now. Give the refs what they want. It's obvious not everbody can do this. The janitors and bankers that are use to coaching high school football can not make the adjustment to ref in the pros!!! It is to fast and to intense for them to just jump in and think that they can hack it. They can't!

I'm a Seahawks fan and former athlete. There is nothing that I like more then seeing them win. But for them to get the win in that manner is ridiculous. There is no way that a game should be decided in that manner and for a win to be given to the wrong team. It makes me sick. These guys ARE NOT on par with the offical refs. I guess from here on out all of the teams will be playing that much harder to avoid one of there games coming down to a decision like this.

To the NFL...YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!
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Everyone who's interested in this needs to read this article.

Post  Blondie1 on Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:30 pm

I know some may not like the Daily Mail but they have an indepth article about all this which I think is very good.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2209052/NFL-nears-deal-end-labor-dispute-referees-botched-angered-fans.html

Former official who trained Lance Easley says he was not ready to officiate an NFL game, adding that Easley never said he intended to reach that level

Referees came up with two opposite calls after Seahawks receiver caught a ball that most fans thought had been intercepted by a Packers defender

The replacements come from a variety of backgrounds, but most have no experience officiating at a national level. It emerged on Tuesday that some of the refs weren't even good enough for the Lingerie Football League.

Others have worked arena football games and Division II college athletics.

The referee at the center of the officiating controversy, the one who made that botched call on Monday night that awarded a tainted win to the Seattle Seahawks, is a California banker who never worked on games bigger than high school or junior college. What a Face

The NFL said on Tuesday that replacement referees made the wrong call by awarding a touchdown for the Seattle Seahawks at the end of Monday night's game - but said the botched ruling will stand.

Each week in the NFL season, which began September 5, has brought fresh complaints from coaches, players and fans about botched calls, missed penalties and replacement referees who don't seem prepared for the bright lights of prime time football.

On Sunday during the Patriots-Ravens game, New England Coach Bill Belichick grabbed a ref by the arm and demanded to know why a field goal was called good. The ruling resulted in Baltimore winning 31-30.

Even more confusing, was a 27-yard penalty against the Detroit Lions in overtime on Sunday that should have been just 15 yards. The call resulted in the Tennessee Titans winning 44-41.

Two coaches for the Denver Broncos have been fined for exploding at referees after they were told they couldn't contest a penalty during a September 17 game against the Atlanta Falcons.

Those are just specific examples of botches calls that helped change the outcome of games. Across the league, players admit the state of play has changed under the referees who aren't as observant and lack the authority of the full-time officials.

In the Ravens-Patriots game, shoving matches followed even insignificant plays. One TV analyst called it the substitute-teacher syndrome: See how much you can get away with before the real thing returns.


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This says it all! Two refs with 2 opposite calls.

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This is what the lockout is about.

Post  Blondie1 on Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:34 pm

SO LITTLE AT STAKE IN NFL LABOR DISAGREEMENT WITH REFEREES
The NFL lockout of season referees comes down to a paltry sum, compared to the NFL's $9billion in annual revenue.

The primary sticking point in labor negotiations comes down to retirement benefits.

The referees, who earn $149,000 a year for the part-time job, want to keep their pensions, which pay a defined benefit to retired refs.

The league wants to change the retirement program to a standard 401(k), which will cost the NFL less over the long term.

The other point of contention is accountability. The NFL wants to institute a 'back bench' of referees, who can be called in to replace refs who have botched too many calls during the season.
Currently, referees can only be fired at the end of the season, if the receive poor evaluations.



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The part in red is rather ironic, isn't it?
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BREAKING NEWS!!!

Post  letsfindem on Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:58 am

THE REFS ARE BACK!! LOCKOUT OVER....THANK THE BIG GUY UPSTAIRS!! Very Happy
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So Right!

Post  Holt on Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:58 pm

letsfindem wrote:THE REFS ARE BACK!! LOCKOUT OVER....THANK THE BIG GUY UPSTAIRS!! Very Happy

It's about time and Blondie the article was a good and in depth one. Thanks.
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