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Post  GT3Paul on Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:59 am

The first person that told me this was Freeman Young. He told me that BigFoot can EMIT light
from its eyes. I had a hard time with this. I dont know a mammal that can emit light from its eyes.
I have four chihauhaus and I take them out before bedtime and two of them have green reflective eyes
and two of them for red reflective eyes. But they dont Generate light, they dont Create light, but reflect
light. The Black and brown and black dog reflect green and the two red headed dogs reflect red.
Freeman told me that BF can change colors to relay information. He told me they can change intesity
to relay information, and they can blink in frequency that relays information.
I had all kinds of problems with these, because of what they would have to do that is different from all other
Mammals.
But then I talked to another woman who has been in a habituation who told me the same time that she has
seen that same activity from Bigfoot.
THen I am reading a website and another report of a habituation site in Colorado and the same thing.
I am talking to Dr Matthew Johnson and he says the same thing.
SO I think I am going to write a white paper on this and submit it. If you have any information let me
know.
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emitting light would make it easier to detect?

Post  MylesLI on Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:01 pm

Wouldn't that be a liability? What benefit could be derived from this?

Happy New Year Paul...good luck!

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Post  Ravinoff on Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:13 pm

Eyes don't work like that, especially not on terrestrial animals. Reflect light, yes, many species have a tapetum lucidum that shines when illuminated, but none can produce a glow independent of external light. This is one of those things about certain bigfoot reports that doesn't make biological sense, there's no species of terrestrial vertebrate with luminescent capability.
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Re: Evidence of Bigfoot emitting light

Post  CMcMillan on Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:54 pm

Yes we can say that Vertbrate animals do not produce light.
But.
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-some-bioluminescent-animals.htm

We can see that BioLuminescent is part of the Evolution of creatures on this planet.
Again people who believe in the Evolution of Man from an organism that all life on the planet is from or several are from. And if you believe in macro and Micro Evolution a creature like bigfoot may have evolved different traits than Man. The adapated to something new.

It is not Impossible in Evolution for this to have happpened.
Just because other animals do not have it doesn't mean Bigfoots do not.


I have always been curious of people saying they see red eyes on bigfoot. Its just odd it is a common discription at night red glowing eyes.
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Re: Evidence of Bigfoot emitting light

Post  GT3Paul on Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:29 pm

As a Scientist, I have no proof that this exists. If I did write a paper it would be purely speculative and based on a theory only. The only proof I would have is from field researchers I know. WHat Ravinoff is true as far as I know. But there are too many reports coming from people I trust including one PHd (psychology not any cut and dry science degree) but still a good source of information. This would not create any liability, I have written white papers before, but on results of experiments. This would just be a paper based on theories of what this MIGHT be or what it MIGHT mean. 3 habituators in the field have said the same things and it really makes me think.
BF seems to have SOME kind of method of communicating with each other when they are monitoring humans in the field. The only fact I have is that we know very little of these animals what so ever. The only non water borne things I know that create light is lightning bugs, everything else is in water, like those plankton or deep sea fish that use light at depths where there is no light. Just an idea. But if you guys know anybody else that are studying a family of bigfoots I would appreciate talking to them.
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Light from eyes.

Post  miller44 on Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:18 am

GT3Paul wrote:
BF seems to have SOME kind of method of communicating with each other when they are monitoring humans in the field.

After having a look around the net it seems that there are several new studies out recently relating to the bioluminescence of the mammalian eye. According to the Journal of Brain Research Jan. 19 2011 edition the mammalian eye exhibits a "spontaneous and visible light-induced ultraweak photon emission."

So it seems that mamal eyes do indeed have the ability to produce biophotons, albeit at trace levels in us humans.
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Re: Evidence of Bigfoot emitting light

Post  GT3Paul on Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:38 pm

Welcome Miller, And I appreciate the help on that subject. Maybe BF has figured out how to ramp that up in millimeums of time of being
nocturnal
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Re: Evidence of Bigfoot emitting light

Post  oldtimer on Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:25 pm

correct me if I'm wrong, but if an animal actually emitted light from it's eyes wouldn't it interfere with it's vision. Having a light shining in or within one's eyes would greatly interfere with one's night vision. IMHO

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Post  Ravinoff on Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:44 pm

oldtimer wrote:correct me if I'm wrong, but if an animal actually emitted light from it's eyes wouldn't it interfere with it's vision. Having a light shining in or within one's eyes would greatly interfere with one's night vision. IMHO

Shining from inside the eye itself would, but there's several species of deep-sea fish that have photophores located on the "cheeks," just below their eyes. I'd be much more inclined to think that bigfoot communicates via infrasound if they communicate at all. A biolumeniscent mammal, let alone a biolumenescent primate would be completely beyond anything we've ever seen.
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Post  Brandon25 on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:35 pm

I just wanted to comment that I have seen their eyes glow, not shine. There was no light source to reflect off of. I saw two sets of eyes, they lit up like a dimmer switch, gradual but fast on and off. First one then the other. That's just what I saw, I don't understand how or why.

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Post  Tzieth on Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:50 am

In my core I want to say this is BS. But in both my mothers story and my grandmothers, both say it had red glowing eyes. My Grandmother thought it was my moms boyfriend and his buddies pulling a prank with two red lensed flashlights at first, as this was all she could see from her kitchen window. I have been trying to figure out a way to justify this since I was 12. I thought of Bioluminescence, but as stated above, that does not seem to be in any favor. How could it see or sneak up on prey? Unless it is a self defense thing.

Other stories I have read about have it being able to shut it off and on at will. So If this is some sort of bioluminescence, then maybe it's not the eye, but some sort of protective lense like a shark has..

Or what I am thinking now, is that it is a refection. But it's reflecting infra-red light and magnifying it to see in absolute darkness. This would explain a lot. If their eyes are that sensitive to the infra-red spectrum to the point where they reflect it back into a visible red to the human eye, then it would have the appearance of "glowing" and the avoidance of camera traps, might not just be because they can see infra-red, but most likely because it hurts their eyes. If their eyes work anything like our Night vision goggles, then they would be able to see a camera trap from miles away.
Anyway.. The glow being caused by an intense reflection of infra-red is my current theory.. It's not perfect, but more logical than having flashlight eyes lol.

But with that being said.. The red eyes seems to be Momo and Grassman. The skunkape reports, the eyes are reflective silver or green. Reports out of Louisiana are of yellowish-green, Bright Yellow or orange (But that could be Dogman/Loup Garu.

Likewise, my own encounter was here in Washington and on Fort Lewis. This thing was really close to me. maybe five to 10 yards. I could hear it's footsteps and it was making vocals as it walked back and fourth in the woodline. But I never saw any glowing eyes of any color and I know it was looking at me.


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Re: Evidence of Bigfoot emitting light

Post  GT3Paul on Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:20 am

TZ tell us about your encounter.

Your explanation is brilliant! Collecting IR light thats out there and moving it in frequency like a prism into the visible spectrum.
And You see why I think they can see camera traps! That was the best explanation I have every heard on this subject.
Are you an engineer?
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Re: Evidence of Bigfoot emitting light

Post  Tzieth on Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:45 pm

GT3Paul wrote:TZ tell us about your encounter.

Your explanation is brilliant! Collecting IR light thats out there and moving it in frequency like a prism into the visible spectrum.
And You see why I think they can see camera traps! That was the best explanation I have every heard on this subject.
Are you an engineer?

I had a guard detail with another soldier to guard the AHA (ammo holding area) near the East gate. It was a little compound that had the ammo in crates and connexes inside a squared fenced off parameter that consisted of a 10 -12 foot chain-link fence with concertina wire around the top part of it. I ruled out that this was a prank, because we had lethal force authorization and each of us were carrying an M-16a2 with three rounds a piece. (The warning shot, the maiming shot and the kill shot) At arouns 0230 we started hearing this echoey yell out in the distance but we did not really pay it any attention at that point. I am sure the other guy thought as I did. That it was a bunch of Females out in the field yelling "Huah". But as it got closer it no longer sounded like "Huah".. It's hard to describe, but the exact sound it was making was the exact vocals you hear on recordings of "Puyallup Screamer". An exact match would be more the Snohomish screams. ( http://www.oregonbigfoot.com/sounds.php third down is how it sounded when we realized it was not a bunch of Females yelling Huah.)

Then it was quiet for a while up until about 0345. We were both in the guardshack when we heard footsteps out in the wood-line at the rear of the paremeter. At first we figured it was our Platoon Sgt who had absolutely no life and that he was trying to sneak up on us to make sure we were patrolling and not sitting inside the guard-shack lol. (Our detail was about to end at 0400). So I headed to the rear of the compound to at least make it look good. Then the vocals began again but it was loud and it had that effect of when you are mowing and hit a rock making the chuck-key squeal or that noise that a dying rabbit makes. (This is not what it sounded like, but it was the same effect such as nails on a chalk board where you have that paralyzing tingle go up your spine). As it made this scream, it seemed to have the tone of a question. I did the "Halt who goes there thing, with my rifle aimed at it's dirrection and the scraming and footsteps stopped. (It was pacing back and fourth before this.) Then after a brief three seconds or so of silence, it made this bloodcurdling "Whoooooah??????" sound that made that nails on the chalk-board effect like before only intensified 100 fold. This made the other guy come running out of the guard shack. This was at the point where I knew that scream was directed at me. Then it began pacing and screaming back and fourth again.from one corner of the parameter to the next. In my own self justification and knowing this was not human nor our Platoon Sgt. checking on us, and the fact we are armed ruled out a prank, I was telling myself this was a large owl walking around on the ground. When the other guard was near me, it paced one more time, then kept heading off in the direction to our left. I looked at him and said "That is some kind of Owl right?" and he simply said "I am going back to the guard shack."

When our relief arrived they asked "Anything to report?" And before I could answer, the other guy (Who was an E-5, I was only an E-4) Quickly said "Nothing" then jumped in the back of the Hummwvee. Right when I had my self convinced that this was some sort of F'd up Owl, I was watching a Bigfoot Documentary while Stationed in Hawaii a few years later. They played the Snohomish Screamer, but called it the Puyallup Screamer. This is when I was in shock as this was the EXACT sound I heard. Only it was deeper in the beginning, and higher at the tail end of it. When it was close it had a screach to it that it was not doing when it was farther away.

I noticed all sounds from the PNW seem to be uniform.. Not the exact same vocal, but the way the vocal's sound. Now in the case of my mother, she was looking right at it as it was screaming at her. I played that sound clip and asked her if this is what she heard, she replied that what she heard was nothing like that. That it sounded like a woman being murdered with a raspy voice. (The Texas and Arkansas vocals match what she heard.) So that is one of the reasons I do not think these are the same creatures.

As for my case... I never even saw a silhouette. On all four corners of the parameter there were floodights facing inward to illuminate the parameter. So if it had any type of eye-shine, I would have been blinded from seeing it unless the eyes were self illuminating.
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Post  GT3Paul on Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:37 am

Where was this and where was your mom? Dude I would have shot. You guys had THREE rounds and thats IT???

Great story, but I would have pulled the trigger!!
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Post  Ravinoff on Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:58 pm

GT3Paul wrote:Where was this and where was your mom? Dude I would have shot. You guys had THREE rounds and thats IT???

Great story, but I would have pulled the trigger!!

No way I'd try that with a 5.56mm. Bigfoot's supposed to be what, 800 pounds? A 5.56 is not a big bullet, you'll have trouble even taking deer with that, let alone an enormous primate. Six rounds of 5.56 FMJ would probably just piss it off more. No, I wouldn't go after bigfoot with anything less than a .30-caliber, that .458 Winchester Garand I saw once might do it.
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Post  Tzieth on Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:55 pm

GT3Paul wrote:Where was this and where was your mom? Dude I would have shot. You guys had THREE rounds and thats IT???

Great story, but I would have pulled the trigger!!

My encounter happened On Ft.Lewis near the East Gate. My mother, grandmother, aunt and cousins encounter were all in South East Missouri during the 70's and 80's.

But Hell NO!!! lol.. Our rounds are well inventoried and there are strict rules to how we go about shooting. We are first to say "Stop (or Halt) Who goes there?" If this was a basecamp or field parameter you would ask for a password. If they do not comply, you are to detain them and if they resist, then it all depends on the circumstance. But in that case you would have a full magazine as you would be in a state of war.

But when you are guarding something vital, such as explosives, or ammo or perhaps something top secret such as a missile silo. (Not sure about top secret stuff, never had that detail lol.) Then you have strict rules you are to follow by the numbers. #1 "Halt who goes there?" #2 Warning shot, #3 Maiming shot, and #4 Kill shot if the subject is still a threat. But in this case the subject never entered the parameter and if I was to fire at something that I did not have a clear visual on, my ass would have been grass. If it were climbing the fence, or at least violently shaking the fence, then "Game on" But I was not allowed to leave the parameter my self, nor was I allowed use of deadly force outside that parameter.

I am not too sure about my Aunt Lanna's story, only that when they were returning home(rural outskirts of Jackson, Missouri) they all saw one either on or near their front porch and it hauled ass as soon as their headlights hit it as they were coming up their driveway. I do not know the whole story on that one, but where she once made fun of my mother's sighting, this incident not only made a believer out of her, but inspired her to write Lonesome Blue (http://www.amazon.com/Lonesome-Blue-Lana-Ussery/dp/0805958193)

My mother's story and grandmother's are tied together. There is another part to it, But I leave that out because it would be viewed as "Too much" and I often have a hard time swallowing that part. Most of that part came from my grandmother, may she rest in peace.. But My grandmother had not only seen Bigfoot, but Aliens, Ghosts, Jesus and demons. If my mothers sighting did not tie into my grandmother's, I would have ignored it. This happened in Pocahontas, Missouri and supposedly the house they lived in was haunted by demons lol. But I only mention this because I found that many habituate reports seem to revolve around paranormal crap and that might be why they are never taken serious. (I know I don't) but with that said, who is going to believe someone who saw both bigfoot, UFO's and ghosts in the same location? lol

My mother used to like to sneak out in the middle of the night to meet up with her friends at this spot that they would party at in the middle of the woods. It was a clearing where there were log piles. (Not Stick structures, but clean cut logs stacked up as if lumberjacks made a stockpile and forgot about it.) My mother at the time was 12-14 years old. One night, as they were sitting on a log "Talking" (Another part of the story I find hard to swallow... just talking? lol). They heard a weird noise off in the distance and they began debating what kind of animal it was and it started an argument between raccoon and possum. Then it was louder and this time they all shut up as it sounded like a woman with a horse voice either being rapped or murdered. When they heard it again, it was upon them and they all saw it standing on the other side of the woodpile looking right at them and screaming. My moms friends all ran, but my mother was frozen in fear and it began to make it's way around the woodpile. Then my mothers boyfriend at the time (The preachers kid) came back and threw a rock or something at it and grabbed my mother.

As they ran they were sure it was following them because they thought they heard leaves crunching behind them every time the stopped to catch their breath. They saw a light in the distance, and ran for it hoping it was a house.. Turned out it was a house, so they all began violently pounding on the door and when the owner opened it with gun in hand (It was the wee hours). They all just bolted inside his house. As the guy was asking what was going on, my mothers boyfriend did not want the guy to think they were looney and throw them back out, so he said "A pack of wolves is after us." (Bigfoot would have probably been more plausible to the guy lol) But his wife recognized my mothers boyfriend and called his father. and the rest called their parents.

When my grandmother picked up my mother and started beating her silly, the wolf story did not sit well with my grandmother, so she asked what really happened. When my mother said "Bigfoot was after us, my grandmother beat my mother again for lying to her. Then my mother was grounded.

About four or five days later, my grandmother was at the kitchen sink washing dishes. I do not know what time it was, only that it was dark. My grandmother then sees two red glowing orbs out in her garden. (My grandmother always entered in garden contests and her corn was her pride and joy.) And these lights were coming from her corn section of her vegetable garden. She then became irate thinking it was my mothers friends pullling a prank and standing on each others shoulders with two red flashlights making blinking motions by cupping their hands over the lenses. She then told my mother to go out and tell her friends that if they don't get off her property she is going to shoot them.

My mother then went outside and made her way towards "them" Then stopped in her tracks when she caught wind of the smell and then actually saw the eyes and recognized them from before. She then ran back inside the house to my irate grandmother and said "It's him!!!". My grandmother then backhanded my mother and grabbed the rifle and went out side yelling "Get off my property before I fill you full of lead!" She then fired a shot over it's left shoulder and this was about the time she found it odd that it had a left shoulder if it was my mothers frinds on each others shoulders holding flashlights. After the shot was fired, it did not run, it did the exact opposite and stood still blinking rapidly. At this point, my grandmothers eyes adjusted and she could see it's exact shape and new that this was one solid object. She then ran back inside the house and locked all the doors and windows and stood there watching it from her kitchen sink window for hours.. At one point she dozed off and opened her eyes at 4am and it was still there. She dozed off again and when she opened her eyes it, was daybreak and it was gone.

She then went out to her garden and it was a wreck. Her corn stalks were ripped apart with half eaten corn all over the ground and all of her strawberries were uprooted with no sign of a strawberry anywhere. The only crops that were left alone were her jalapeno's and her tomatoes. Huge footprints were all over what was left of her garden and she then called the police. When the Officer showed up, he simply said "Pranksters.. what can you do?" and drove off. When my grandmother attended church that following Sunday, everyone was looking at her and snickering and even the preacher made fun of her during the sermon "Seems some of yall think there is a monster running around these parts." in which everyone turned and looked at my grandmother as they chuckled. My grandmother then stopped attending that church, but it ticked off my mother even worse as her boyfriend was the same preachers son and he did not say a word.

For about the next couple of weeks, it kept returning every other night even though there was nothing left in the garden to raid.

I heard these two stories growing up all my life, so whether or not Bigfoot is real was never a question to me. It was deeply rooted as "fact" But I only recently began actually thinking between the lines... This thing saw my mother and her friends in a spot out in the woods they went to almost every night. Then she does not show up for a few days, and it goes to her house? It knew where she lived... This makes me think that it could have been following her all the times before they saw it..

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Post  GT3Paul on Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:49 pm

Ravinoff, I wouldnt have known it was an 800 lb animal and I was think of my AR -10 which is chambered in .308
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Post  GT3Paul on Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:08 pm

WOW man Great story!!!! I dont know if I dont pull the trigger if I was your granny!
Sounds like your Grandma is Granny Eastwood!!!
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Post  miller44 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:06 am

GT3Paul wrote:TZ tell us about your encounter.

Your explanation is brilliant! Collecting IR light thats out there and moving it in frequency like a prism into the visible spectrum.
And You see why I think they can see camera traps! That was the best explanation I have every heard on this subject.
Are you an engineer?

I must agree that is a brilliant idea Tzieth.

I remember back in the old days using 1st generation IR military scopes. It was a really interesting effect which would happened when you used your own IR scope and looked at a distance at someone using a second IR scope pointed in your diirection. Almost like a glowing line would appear in the IR viewfinder which was caused by the far off IR emission of the other scope. You could defitnely detect an enemy sniper using IR from a considerable distance, and he could detect you as well.

IR sees itself, however you want to put it.
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Post  Tzieth on Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:50 pm

Yeah but the difference is that in this case, Sasquatch would not be emitting I.R. just collecting it. This would mean that their eyes would actually be more powerful than our 1st gen Night vision scopes and NVG's.

This would not just work for them being Nocturnal but it would make that other theory makes sense. That story of the Ape-Man in that small wooded area of England that everyone has a hard time swallowing and here in the U.S. where you have small State Forests that are encircled by open fields and yet still get Sasquatch reports.. There is a logical possibility as to how that can happen.. If they are subterranean during the day.

I don't know about England, or Ohio, But up here in the Cascades we have hidden caves and lava tubes all over the place. And like the Cape Caves up here in Washington, they are pitch black. There is no adjusting your eyes, there is literally no light to be found. Without a flashlight, you are screwed. But If Sasquatch eyes do collect I.R. or amplify and reflect the smallest particle then all of the radioactive minerals embedded in the cooled lava might be enough to illuminate the cave for them.
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Post  CMcMillan on Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:19 am

New England
We actually have lots of Cave systems

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Post  Ravinoff on Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:27 pm

CMcMillan wrote:New England
We actually have lots of Cave systems


Hang on, really? Can you expand on this a bit? It sorta ties into a theory I had regarding the Dover Demon a while back.
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Post  miller44 on Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:39 pm

Tzieth wrote:If Sasquatch eyes do collect I.R. or amplify and reflect the smallest particle then all of the radioactive minerals embedded in the cooled lava might be enough to illuminate the cave for them.

I won't pretend that I knew this before I looked it up, but yeah, granite based lava can sometimes hold levels of radiation up to 500 - 1000 times higher than ambient earth. So very interesting theory you have there!

Yeah but the difference is that in this case, Sasquatch would not be emitting I.R. just collecting it. This would mean that their eyes would actually be more powerful than our 1st gen Night vision scopes and NVG's.

Gotcha, I should have been more clear in with I was refering to (in talking about looking at one GEN1 IR scope with another) I was speculating how it might appear to a sasquatch looking at camera trap with an IR sensor.

In my experience (albeit remembering back 30 years ago) it's a much different phenomena than looking at a bright light through the night vision viewfinders we commonly use these days. Nonetheless it sticks out like a sore thumb, that's for sure!
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Post  Tzieth on Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:34 pm

I know what you mean lol. It was the same thing when you had your IR turned on on the night Vision Goggles we had when I was in 12 years ago. They were starlight, but had the option to go IR if it was too dark, If you turned on your IR you could see another person's IR even through foliage cover. But then there was that really cool effect.. I remember the first time I was issued NVG's for the field. While on my guard shift on the 50 cal position, I literally saw the OPFOR coming from a mile away, only I did not know it was a mile away. I pushed the trigger on the 50 cal which put everyone on alert and when there was nothing at first they were ticked, but then we all saw them. They did not even hear the 50 cal go off.. They were smoking cigarettes as they approached and we were all waiting for them. I remember everyone wondering "Why are these idiots carrying Spotlights?" .. turned out those "Spotlights" were just the cherries of their cigarettes.. Then they made that rules that we were no longer allowed to smoke out in the field Sad

If Sasquatch do see IR, it makes you wonder how aware of us they are when you throw in all the things carry into the woods now.. like cell phones
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Post  GT3Paul on Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:49 pm

It also gives you an idea of how Finding Bigfoot Crew will NEVER GET CLOSE to a BF
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