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How to reclaim the blog from trolls

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Post  Big Jim Jr Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:39 pm

As everyone knows the blog has been taken over by trolls. Not skeptics, trolls. I thought of a few ways to reclaim it from them. We should all band together, believer, skeptic, and fence sitter who enjoy the subject of bigfoot and a good argument but are sick of taterholes, gay slurs, racism, and other filth. If we work as a unit, we can run them off. Here are a few methods.

Find a long boring topic on anything. Copy it and paste it under every troll post. Make it almost the limit on characters. Human psychology and behavior would be good. Or a political speech with thees and thous.
Every time a troll posts a gay slur, post a long comment on how to come out of the closet. You can find these by googling it.
Sex and taterholes, post a long post about the medical side effects of drinking too much.

It will take awhile I am sure, but we could reclaim the blog. Then get back to fun debate of bigfoot or whatever Shawn puts up. But we have to work together. Skeptics, believers, etc. But we also have to target trolls only. Not guys like rumferlife, rushferlife, mayor mccheese, even bigfoot is bs as long as they are not posting complete troll rubbish. Even I troll back at trolls but try to use better language. If you guys and gals agree, we should start soon.
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Post  Squatchmaster G Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:53 pm

The thing is the trolls want to be acknowledged, so if you respond to their posts in any way you're giving them exactly what they want and encouraging them. Yelling at them, insulting them, posting boring stuff, posting sensible stuff, asking them nicely - as far as they're concerned it only shows that they got your attention and they've won.

The only effective way of dealing with them (apart from Shawn disabling anonymous posting) is to ignore them, and even then it'll never be completely effective. These days I just don't bother going to unmoderated sites which is why I don't bother with the blog comments sections.
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Post  Big Jim Jr Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:57 pm

I think if we take up so much space that no one else can post crap, they will get tired of it. If they have to spend too much time wading through us, they will move on. At least that is my hope. We all have done the ignoring, but it does not last. Shawn won't moderate so he is losing long time posters to them starting their own blogs. Soon he will have nothing but trolls left and that will be tje end of BE.
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Post  Squatchmaster G Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:01 pm

I'd also recommend checking to see whether Shawn minds if you "take up so much space that no one else can post crap" in his blog before you go ahead with it. Wink
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Post  ***** Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:31 pm

I think it's a worthy idea, but I honestly don't care enough, because I'm never on the blog comments section. You'd have to have a dedicated group of consistent posters there. Worth a try I guess.

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Post  MylesLI Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:55 am

NobleSavage wrote:I think it's a worthy idea, but I honestly don't care enough, because I'm never on the blog comments section. You'd have to have a dedicated group of consistent posters there. Worth a try I guess.

It's Shawn's page and it's his doing that allowed this to continue. He loves the attention. He loves the clicks..if it takes me 10 minutes to scroll down looking for intellegence, he wins...I lose

Instead, I scroll down quickly looking for a real post and bail. He could close all comments on the "outside" for 30 days and accomplish the same thing... think he would? I don't

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Post  Big Jim Jr Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:26 am

Shaw put up the perfect post to test it on. So here goes.
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Post  Squatchmaster G Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:07 am

Big Jim Jr wrote:Shaw put up the perfect post to test it on. So here goes.

Which, the one where he praises the trolls? Laughing
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Post  paul830 Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:14 pm


I think Shawn just made it really clear today where he stands. What I had originally suspected is true. He's in bed with the trolls and always has been. He is one of them. Can't fight that situation.

It's more or less a kind of madhouse with everyone at odds.

I can picture him as a guy who has a touch of megalomania and everyone on his website is a character in a drama he creates. Kind of like pets in a cage.

How true or not this is I can't say but what he said today displays thinking that is along those lines.
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Post  ***** Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:54 pm

Why no trolling in the forum, but trolling is welcomed in the blog comments? Why anonymity in the blog comment area, but no more anonymous posters in the forum. Originally, members of this forum were allowed to post anonymously. There was an uprising and everyone threatened to leave, and it was done away with. There were early members here who were kicked out of the forums, i.e. Stankape, for what was termed "Trolling". If one reads the forum rules guidelines at the top of the topics page, it's clear that trolling is the primary focus of those guidelines. The fact that Shawn has now posted support for trolling the blog comments is leading me to believe he's trying to drive more of those from the fringe into this forum. Just my opinion. It's not that hard to click on forum at the top of the Bigfoot Evidence page, registering takes less than a minute. It seems pretty simple to me what Shawn's intentions are.

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Post  BurdenOfProof Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:35 pm

In the world of footery if you state that bigfoot does not exist and give reasoned and logical arguments to support that you are labled a troll. Madness I know. If you want this forum to go the way of the bigfoot forums then thats great but whats the point? You might aswell just go there and pay to enter the secret treehouse club members area to fantasize about the big fella with fellow believers.

The real trolls are the "habituator" types spouting off wilds claims of frolicking with bigfoots in their backyard yet providing zero evidence. They are the real trolls of the community. Dangerous delusional people.
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Post  ***** Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:07 pm

To save the delusional from their madness, and to convince the naive of their foolishness. Through reasoned and logical argument rescue us all from this mass hysteria we call 'bigfoot'. What a generous and noble fellow you are Burden to spend your spare time debating the existence of a fantasy to so many of us wee minded sort. And that's why you are here...ummm..hmmm..

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Post  CMcMillan Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:13 pm

BurdenOfProof wrote:In the world of footery if you state that bigfoot does not exist and give reasoned and logical arguments to support that you are labled a troll. Madness I know. If you want this forum to go the way of the bigfoot forums then thats great but whats the point? You might aswell just go there and pay to enter the secret treehouse club members area to fantasize about the big fella with fellow believers.

The real trolls are the "habituator" types spouting off wilds claims of frolicking with bigfoots in their backyard yet providing zero evidence. They are the real trolls of the community. Dangerous delusional people.

Seriously?
No the Blog is full of Childish Trolls who don't want to even talk.
People have always been allowed Opinions and welcome discussions.
We are talking about the many posts of childish Behavior and comments. Just the "1st, 2nd's or So and so is a Jerk" etc..
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Post  paul830 Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:46 pm

If you come here to negate everything because you've made up your mind before entertaining ideas presented, then you are stifling opinion by undermining the opinions of others. I would call that trolling yes.

Virtually everyone on here accepts that this cryptid is not a scientifically acknowledged fact. We start there and move forward. We don't need to be reminded of our own starting point. That isn't higher intelligence. It doesn't serve the purpose of a forum at all actually.

The trolls I see aren't about open dialogue. They're about juvenile insults and mockery. Another trolling behaviour that the majority of people don't like. This doesn't make everyone else who isn't a troll the same. Everyone is different. People just don't like being stifled and undermined when presenting their opinions on anything. I've found that people like to be respected and heard and encouraged to do just that.
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Post  DPinkerton Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:33 pm

We need to remember this is a Bigfoot forum...it is not a place to debate the existence of Bigfoot or to make a case for why Bigfoot can not exist.

Bigfoot Evidence is the name...Official Bigfoot Evidence Forum. The forum created to discuss items on the Blog.

Remember why it is here.

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Post  tr11969 Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:57 pm

DPinkerton wrote:We need to remember this is a Bigfoot forum...it is not a place to debate the existence of Bigfoot or to make a case for why Bigfoot can not exist.

Bigfoot Evidence is the name...Official Bigfoot Evidence Forum. The forum created to discuss items on the Blog.

Remember why it is here.

I actually disagree with that. I'm very open to evidence Bigfoot exists as well as evidence Bigfoot does not exist. Without the burden of proof as in discussion all these hoaxes would have be considered real. The best way to get rid of the trolls (and it won't work 100%) is exactly what Squatchmaster G said.

"The thing is the trolls want to be acknowledged, so if you respond to their posts in any way you're giving them exactly what they want and encouraging them."

But ignoring the problem doesn't work in life nor online with trolls. You can ignore them and some will get tired of it and leave. The other more persistent ones will still troll regardless of acknowledgement or not. They do it just to get a laugh for themselves and they won't stop.

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Post  Squatchmaster G Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:20 pm

There's a few obviously skeptical trolls on the blog but I strongly suspect that at least some of them are longterm Footers who have issues with Shawn and Team Tazer.
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Post  tr11969 Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:30 pm

Squatchmaster G wrote:There's a few obviously skeptical trolls on the blog but I strongly suspect that at least some of them are longterm Footers who have issues with Shawn and Team Tazer.

The ones with issues won't stop unless you somehow ban them. Even ignoring them won't make a difference. At least from experience in other message boards, they never do.

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Post  paul830 Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:47 am

I've gotta admit, I got a really big kick out of Big Jim Jr's plan to go and post long editorials after any troll talk. I noticed within a day he was making good on what he said. Just walking right in there and back talking/bashing trolls. Just one guy wading out into the thick of trolldom and just started sittin on them. It was like watching someone on a dare with a purpose. The whole thing seemed very surreal and very, very funny.

The details haven't been ironed out but it was time for action.

God bless you Big Jim. Your methods may be a bit off but your heart is definitely in the right place. Can't ever blame a guy for trying.
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Post  Squatchmaster G Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:09 pm

Whoa, Shawn just lowered the boom on the "potty mouth" trolls in the blog and threatened to start banning people who used naughty words. cheers
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Post  paul830 Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:02 pm

It's about fu....freakin time!
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Post  paul830 Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:27 pm

By the way, good job Big Jim Jr. I believe you may have had a hand in calling more attention to the problem. Now the language being cleaned up is a start. Maybe a big one. Start I mean.

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