Population numbers relative to sightings

StankApe wrote:

GT3Paul wrote:Someone brought up the idea of migration. i was told by a senior researcher that the northeastern and Canadian Squatches move soon to the southeastern states.
And the PNW Squatches start soon migrating toward mexico. He said they should soon start passing through my neck of the woods. He says that we should be able
to see fairly close to where I live some of the suckers tramping through. He said he would come down here during that time frame and help me look. That would be in the October/November time frame before they head down to Cabo and start partying up. Given my unleashing a technical barrage on these guys like they have never seen before, I hope to have some luck this fall. At least with the THermals.

I find that a bit of a stretch Paul, i could buy into the concept of a elevation migration , as it only involves moving a few miles and down the mountain as it were. But to say that a sustaining population migrates 1000 miles or more, at the rate of 5 or 6 mph, plus rests time.....well that's a lot of time in motion, and a lot of energy spent, it seems unlikely.


It's just conjecture and theory, so all guesswork is acceptable here. Carry on gents!


If anything one would expect a period of aestivation,preceded by some hoarding and perhaps some short distance migration (say from over 8,000 feet to less than 2000 feet where the grass still grows here and there)

StankApe wrote:

GT3Paul wrote:Someone brought up the idea of migration. i was told by a senior researcher that the northeastern and Canadian Squatches move soon to the southeastern states.
And the PNW Squatches start soon migrating toward mexico. He said they should soon start passing through my neck of the woods. He says that we should be able
to see fairly close to where I live some of the suckers tramping through. He said he would come down here during that time frame and help me look. That would be in the October/November time frame before they head down to Cabo and start partying up. Given my unleashing a technical barrage on these guys like they have never seen before, I hope to have some luck this fall. At least with the THermals.

I find that a bit of a stretch Paul, i could buy into the concept of a elevation migration , as it only involves moving a few miles and down the mountain as it were. But to say that a sustaining population migrates 1000 miles or more, at the rate of 5 or 6 mph, plus rests time.....well that's a lot of time in motion, and a lot of energy spent, it seems unlikely.


If anything one would expect a period of aestivation,preceded by some hoarding and perhaps some short distance migration (say from over 8,000 feet to less than 2000 feet where the grass still grows here and there)

The earliest humans probably lived primarily on scavenging, not actual hunting. Early humans in the Lower Paleolithic lived in mixed habitats which allowed them to collect seafood, eggs, nuts, and fruits besides scavenging. Rather than killing large animals themselves for meat, they used carcasses of large animals killed by other predators or carcasses from animals that died by natural causes.

Hunting and gathering was presumably the subsistence strategy employed by human societies beginning some 1.8 million years ago, by Homo erectus, and from its appearance some 0.2 million years ago by Homo sapiens. It remained the only mode of subsistence until the end of the Mesolithic period some 10,000 years ago,

Habitat and population

Hunter-gatherer societies tend to be relatively mobile, given their reliance upon the ability of a given natural environment to provide sufficient resources in order to sustain their population and the variable availability of these resources owing to local climatic and seasonal conditions. Individual band societies tend to be small in number (10-50 individuals), but these may gather together seasonally to temporarily form a larger group (100 or more) when resources are abundant. In a few places where the environment is especially productive, such as that of the Pacific Northwest coast or Jomon-era Japan, hunter-gatherers are able to settle permanently.[citation needed]

Hunter-gatherer settlements may be either permanent, temporary, or some combination of the two, depending upon the mobility of the community. Mobile communities typically construct shelters using impermanent building materials, or they may use natural rock shelters, where they are available.

StankApe wrote:

GT3Paul wrote:Stank, I dont think the migration is that much of a stretch. Lets face it, the idea that it exists is a stretch. So if we make that assumption then the idea
that they migrate a 1000 miles or less is not that hard to imagine. In my area it would be an altitude migration from the high Sierras, Cascades. All the way up to
the mountains of Washington moving down to the areas of central Southern California is not that hard to understand. BECAUSE if you think they exist then some of the ideas that they move swifty and at night isnt too hard to imagine. Heck if some people from Central Mexico can make it up to Idaho and further North then a squatch should be able to do it easily.

When I hear the word "migration" I think like 400-500 miles +... 100 miles doesn't seem out of the question at all... guess it was just how long a distance we each interpret a migration to be

Human migration (derived from Latin: migratio) is physical movement by humans from one area to another, sometimes over long distances or in large groups. Historically this movement was nomadic, often causing significant conflict with the indigenous population and their displacement or cultural assimilation. Only a few nomadic people have retained this form of lifestyle in modern times

All groups of gorillas, known as troops, are nomadic and never stay in the same place for more than a day. Every morning, silver backs lead their troops to new areas where they will spend part of the day eating and foraging food for themselves and younger gorillas. They spend the afternoons napping, grooming and playing, before they eat again in the evening

The wolverine is the largest
of the weasel family, but more resembles a small bear. A full-grown male may be 4
feet long including tail, stand 17 inches at the shoulder, and weigh 60 pounds. The
wolverine is a rare and remarkably elusive, solitary predator that has a very large
home range of over 240 square miles. One individual that was radio-collared with a
GPS transmitter wandered nearly 550 miles over a six-week period. In one nineteen-
day span it traversed a 250-mile stretch from Grand Teton National Park to a ridge just
east of my hometown of Pocatello and back again. This individual, at least during his
wandering phase, had an estimated home range of 23,000 square miles. The wolverine’s
preferred habitat range largely corresponds to areas of regional sasquatch reports.
The seminar presentation was well illustrated, and I was curious about the protocols
used to get such stunning photographs of such a secretive animal as the wolverine.
The presenter’s response was, “Do you remember that one particular slide with a distant
tiny brown dot on a white field of snow? That was the only photo in this presentation
of a wolverine taken in the wild. All the rest were simply staged in a pen on
a game ranch.”