More reports of Sasquatch Aggression in the South?
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More reports of Sasquatch Aggression in the South?
Some members here have rightly pointed out that there are more reports in the South of aggressive encounters with Bigfoot, than say the PNW, or NorCal, and other areas of U.S.
I've sometimes theorized that this aggression could be due to the bulk of forest visitors in the South carrying weapons with them in greater numbers, and with more frequency.
Of course, there could be any number of reasons we have more reports of aggression down South, but I thought we could kick this around a bit, if anyone would like to contribute.
Thanks,
NS
I've sometimes theorized that this aggression could be due to the bulk of forest visitors in the South carrying weapons with them in greater numbers, and with more frequency.
Of course, there could be any number of reasons we have more reports of aggression down South, but I thought we could kick this around a bit, if anyone would like to contribute.
Thanks,
NS
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Re: More reports of Sasquatch Aggression in the South?
I think this could be more Dogman/skunkape related
If dogman is a different "race" "species" and its more aggressive
If dogman is a different "race" "species" and its more aggressive
CMcMillan- Posts : 1097
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Re: More reports of Sasquatch Aggression in the South?
The south has quite a population of them and lives closer to populated area's than the PNW variety. I'd surmise they face increased competition for territory so would naturally be more aggressive in defending it. The seem to understand hunting leases are used predictably, so human incursions out of season might just set them off.
Starz- Posts : 53
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On to something there...
Stars you make some excellent points there.....here in Texas much of the land is leased out for hunting, much is also protected, more than many might think.
I find that those outside of Texas often have a skewed picture of a land of cactus, and tumbleweeds, but there are areas within and hour of where I sit now that would shock most. Primordial hardwood, and pine forest, mixed with jungle like foliage, vines, briars, etc. Almost inpenetrable rainforest looking stuff, LOL. Much of that sort, is never hunted because access is incredibly difficult. I'm a lot more frightened going solo in these areas than anywhere else I've been in the US. Of course, I've yet to go to Alaska, that's next!!! Grizzlies roaming around is enough to counterbalance all I worry about solo-ing in South..
I sure don't want to sound like one of those idiots that think everything is bigger, better, tougher, etc. bullshit in Texas. I've traveled enough to know that different places offer and pose different negatives and positives. I absolutely love Tennessee, the Smokies, NorCal Redwoods, Colorado is spectacular, Appallachia,
Northeast Texas where I grew up, and still reside, much like Tzeith described has many species of venomous snakes, snapping turtles, all manner of creepy crawlies that always want to snuggle, not to mention black bears, wild boars, panthers, coy dogs, and I've been chased up trees, jumped out of creeks, and just overall harassed by more animals here than anywhere else I've been! I often think I'd like to move! LOL
Maybe the Squatches here are just used to these hot, mosquito infested, inhospitable environments, and are pissed off all the time!
I find that those outside of Texas often have a skewed picture of a land of cactus, and tumbleweeds, but there are areas within and hour of where I sit now that would shock most. Primordial hardwood, and pine forest, mixed with jungle like foliage, vines, briars, etc. Almost inpenetrable rainforest looking stuff, LOL. Much of that sort, is never hunted because access is incredibly difficult. I'm a lot more frightened going solo in these areas than anywhere else I've been in the US. Of course, I've yet to go to Alaska, that's next!!! Grizzlies roaming around is enough to counterbalance all I worry about solo-ing in South..
I sure don't want to sound like one of those idiots that think everything is bigger, better, tougher, etc. bullshit in Texas. I've traveled enough to know that different places offer and pose different negatives and positives. I absolutely love Tennessee, the Smokies, NorCal Redwoods, Colorado is spectacular, Appallachia,
Northeast Texas where I grew up, and still reside, much like Tzeith described has many species of venomous snakes, snapping turtles, all manner of creepy crawlies that always want to snuggle, not to mention black bears, wild boars, panthers, coy dogs, and I've been chased up trees, jumped out of creeks, and just overall harassed by more animals here than anywhere else I've been! I often think I'd like to move! LOL
Maybe the Squatches here are just used to these hot, mosquito infested, inhospitable environments, and are pissed off all the time!
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Re: More reports of Sasquatch Aggression in the South?
It maybe the results of a migration. They could possibly be migrating from North to South for the winter and are unfamiliar with their surrounds. This results in more contact with humans or trespassing on residential bigfoot territory. Just speculating and tossing around ideas.
dingo3497- Posts : 80
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Your idea makes sense to me
I can understand BF migrating to locate better food sources. Deer are more plentiful south of us here in Western Kentucky. In Alabama, where I grew up, deer were everywhere, yet I rarely see one here in Kentucky, even though I know they are here.
I think BF will be where ever the best food supply for them would be located.
I think BF will be where ever the best food supply for them would be located.
Sweetsusiq- Posts : 199
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Heat, humidity, and fleas
I would be in a bad mood if I had to live in hot temperatures with high humidly, probably also existing with fleas and ticks all over them. I would be in a terrible mood also.
Sweetsusiq- Posts : 199
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I second CM's statement!
I also agree with CM's statement. I suspect Dogman is the culprit in many of the violent aggressive "BF" reports we hear about.CMcMillan wrote:I think this could be more Dogman/skunkape related
If dogman is a different "race" "species" and its more aggressive
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Re: More reports of Sasquatch Aggression in the South?
It's ,more than just the aggression though. The description of "Southern Sasquatch" is different. The heads are rounded and the hair is longer. Where PNW Sasquatch reports have them averaging around 8ft tall, the Deep South reports have them averages between 4ft-5ft.6. I do not think they are the same Hominids (East Texas has these reports as well) Then there are reports from the Hill Country region of Texas (And as far east as Lake Tawakanie) of coned headed creatures that are tall, but really skinny. The Bayou regions of South East Texas have reports of the Fouk-Monster type (First one mentioned) But also things that appear to be true apes running around on all fours, as well as your Loup Guru/Werewolf things.
As for PNW Sasquatch moving deep south... I don't see how it is possible. The Pacific Northwest has all kinds of underground lava tubes and caves all through the Cascades and maybe they connect to what is in the Sierra-Nevadas... But then the whole topography changes to Salt Flats and deserts. That is quite a distance to cross without cover.
Back when I was Stationed at Ft.Lewis and drove home to Fort Worth on leave, I hated making that trip. Once you pass San Fransisco, it's endless miles of Nothing up until you reach L.A. then more endless miles of nothing once you connect from I-5 to I-10 and from I-10 to I-20 you do not see any vegetation until you pass the Permian Bason. Then you slowly start to see Mesquite Trees that start out sparse and get a little more thicker as you go along until finally your in the more lush cross-timbers Oak/Cedar region. It takes forever to get out of the desert by car.. I can't imagine these creatures doing it by foot every season.
As for PNW Sasquatch moving deep south... I don't see how it is possible. The Pacific Northwest has all kinds of underground lava tubes and caves all through the Cascades and maybe they connect to what is in the Sierra-Nevadas... But then the whole topography changes to Salt Flats and deserts. That is quite a distance to cross without cover.
Back when I was Stationed at Ft.Lewis and drove home to Fort Worth on leave, I hated making that trip. Once you pass San Fransisco, it's endless miles of Nothing up until you reach L.A. then more endless miles of nothing once you connect from I-5 to I-10 and from I-10 to I-20 you do not see any vegetation until you pass the Permian Bason. Then you slowly start to see Mesquite Trees that start out sparse and get a little more thicker as you go along until finally your in the more lush cross-timbers Oak/Cedar region. It takes forever to get out of the desert by car.. I can't imagine these creatures doing it by foot every season.
Tzieth- Posts : 478
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Re: More reports of Sasquatch Aggression in the South?
What about the Honey Island Swamp Monster? RAARRGGHH!!!
Danny Squatchanini- Posts : 127
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The South is Misunderstood
Too many stereotypes about the "Southern Bigfoot" versus the Pacific NW, Canadian, etc, etc. I think in general Southerners are a bit more quiet about the encounters due to everyone's view of them as being "slow" or "stupid" or "inbred", etc. Also the influence of the Bible Belt, Civil War, and the slow warming up to the internet, etc, have really kept them from trusting outsiders at times.
I live in NC, grew up here, lived in Ga many years, and have heard stories since I was a child in the '70s. You do indeed here about some aggression, but I would say rarely. You hear about them being glimpsed or stealing garbage mostly. I heard it called "Sasquatch" first by the Native Indians from around the South. We grew up with Patterson's film and Boggy Creek being the big influences on most Americans' view of Bigfoot. But there are plenty of stories of different types of creatures with differing traits that you hear all over N America. Whether you take Tim Peeler or Mike Greene's stories/videos as evidence or not, both stories kind of refute the typical "Southern Bigfoot" stereotype. Peeler said the creature was 10 feet tall based on where he saw the head of the creature hit the tree limbs when it appeared out of the thicket. Mike Greene's "Squeaky", the thermal zagnut-loving Squatch, appears on the video to have a coned-shaped head. I have a friend who saw one as a child somewhere between the areas of Peeler (Cleveland County) and Greene (Uwharrie National Forest), and the friend said that to her mind it was a "giant gorilla" that looked way too big. She said that it had to be close to 10 feet tall, because it was close to a basketball goal. She simply stumbled upon it playing in the woods behind her house and it just stood and watched her from about 25 feet she thinks. It simply turned and walked away. I've heard some recent tales of a neighborhood in Troy, NC (Uwharrie area), where practically everyone has caught the Bigfoot getting their garbage scraps. This area was the first episode of "Finding Bigfoot" and many people did NOT tell Matt Moneymaker their tales.
Keep in mind that NC has Mountains, Piedmont forests (rolling foothills), Coastal areas with many lakes and swamps, and several large National Forests ie Uwharrie, Nantahala, the Appalachian Trail, etc. To my mind the Gulf Coast across to Florida and up the East Coast of the Atlantic is very similar to the Pacific NW areas as far as diversity of terrain/wildlife and indeed in the sheer number of Bigfoot Tales.
I just wanted to say don't be so quick to categorize the tales to certain areas. There may be really simple reasons you aren't hearing more stories.
I live in NC, grew up here, lived in Ga many years, and have heard stories since I was a child in the '70s. You do indeed here about some aggression, but I would say rarely. You hear about them being glimpsed or stealing garbage mostly. I heard it called "Sasquatch" first by the Native Indians from around the South. We grew up with Patterson's film and Boggy Creek being the big influences on most Americans' view of Bigfoot. But there are plenty of stories of different types of creatures with differing traits that you hear all over N America. Whether you take Tim Peeler or Mike Greene's stories/videos as evidence or not, both stories kind of refute the typical "Southern Bigfoot" stereotype. Peeler said the creature was 10 feet tall based on where he saw the head of the creature hit the tree limbs when it appeared out of the thicket. Mike Greene's "Squeaky", the thermal zagnut-loving Squatch, appears on the video to have a coned-shaped head. I have a friend who saw one as a child somewhere between the areas of Peeler (Cleveland County) and Greene (Uwharrie National Forest), and the friend said that to her mind it was a "giant gorilla" that looked way too big. She said that it had to be close to 10 feet tall, because it was close to a basketball goal. She simply stumbled upon it playing in the woods behind her house and it just stood and watched her from about 25 feet she thinks. It simply turned and walked away. I've heard some recent tales of a neighborhood in Troy, NC (Uwharrie area), where practically everyone has caught the Bigfoot getting their garbage scraps. This area was the first episode of "Finding Bigfoot" and many people did NOT tell Matt Moneymaker their tales.
Keep in mind that NC has Mountains, Piedmont forests (rolling foothills), Coastal areas with many lakes and swamps, and several large National Forests ie Uwharrie, Nantahala, the Appalachian Trail, etc. To my mind the Gulf Coast across to Florida and up the East Coast of the Atlantic is very similar to the Pacific NW areas as far as diversity of terrain/wildlife and indeed in the sheer number of Bigfoot Tales.
I just wanted to say don't be so quick to categorize the tales to certain areas. There may be really simple reasons you aren't hearing more stories.
Greevus- Posts : 5
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Re: More reports of Sasquatch Aggression in the South?
Thanks Greevus you said it better than I could have.
Starz- Posts : 53
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Re: More reports of Sasquatch Aggression in the South?
Greevus wrote:Too many stereotypes about the "Southern Bigfoot" versus the Pacific NW, Canadian, etc, etc. I think in general Southerners are a bit more quiet about the encounters due to everyone's view of them as being "slow" or "stupid" or "inbred", etc. Also the influence of the Bible Belt, Civil War, and the slow warming up to the internet, etc, have really kept them from trusting outsiders at times.
I live in NC, grew up here, lived in Ga many years, and have heard stories since I was a child in the '70s. You do indeed here about some aggression, but I would say rarely. You hear about them being glimpsed or stealing garbage mostly. I heard it called "Sasquatch" first by the Native Indians from around the South. We grew up with Patterson's film and Boggy Creek being the big influences on most Americans' view of Bigfoot. But there are plenty of stories of different types of creatures with differing traits that you hear all over N America. Whether you take Tim Peeler or Mike Greene's stories/videos as evidence or not, both stories kind of refute the typical "Southern Bigfoot" stereotype. Peeler said the creature was 10 feet tall based on where he saw the head of the creature hit the tree limbs when it appeared out of the thicket. Mike Greene's "Squeaky", the thermal zagnut-loving Squatch, appears on the video to have a coned-shaped head. I have a friend who saw one as a child somewhere between the areas of Peeler (Cleveland County) and Greene (Uwharrie National Forest), and the friend said that to her mind it was a "giant gorilla" that looked way too big. She said that it had to be close to 10 feet tall, because it was close to a basketball goal. She simply stumbled upon it playing in the woods behind her house and it just stood and watched her from about 25 feet she thinks. It simply turned and walked away. I've heard some recent tales of a neighborhood in Troy, NC (Uwharrie area), where practically everyone has caught the Bigfoot getting their garbage scraps. This area was the first episode of "Finding Bigfoot" and many people did NOT tell Matt Moneymaker their tales.
Keep in mind that NC has Mountains, Piedmont forests (rolling foothills), Coastal areas with many lakes and swamps, and several large National Forests ie Uwharrie, Nantahala, the Appalachian Trail, etc. To my mind the Gulf Coast across to Florida and up the East Coast of the Atlantic is very similar to the Pacific NW areas as far as diversity of terrain/wildlife and indeed in the sheer number of Bigfoot Tales.
I just wanted to say don't be so quick to categorize the tales to certain areas. There may be really simple reasons you aren't hearing more stories.
Nice post But the Carolina's might have yet another crypted. What is reported along the Appalachian trail and the Smokey's seems to be more like PNW. By South, I meant deep South. (Swamp Stalkers) Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, Arkansas (Might have two types), Georgia (Might have 2 types.) and Florida (Might have three types, one being a Nape.)
Your Knobby reports have him being huge.
With these, it's more than the aggression, they seem to be repeat offenders, suggesting that they are territorial. They are also said to be shorter, overly hairy (Hair 3-10"long all over the body.) have fangs and claws. (But that could be due to the witness being so frightened they remember it that way.. Or maybe they do?) Or maybe they are pug-nosed Dog-men? lol Bulldog-men
Tzieth- Posts : 478
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Perhaps these are young Dogman?
I wonder if people are running into young Dogman creatures? I would imagine that the young would be pretty fierce also. Yikes! Twice..
Sweetsusiq- Posts : 199
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Excellent post!
You certainly posted some excellent ideas here. I wonder if they travel at night, or if these animals are only migratory in certain areas where they have enough cover to travel through?Tzieth wrote:It's ,more than just the aggression though. The description of "Southern Sasquatch" is different. The heads are rounded and the hair is longer. Where PNW Sasquatch reports have them averaging around 8ft tall, the Deep South reports have them averages between 4ft-5ft.6. I do not think they are the same Hominids (East Texas has these reports as well) Then there are reports from the Hill Country region of Texas (And as far east as Lake Tawakanie) of coned headed creatures that are tall, but really skinny. The Bayou regions of South East Texas have reports of the Fouk-Monster type (First one mentioned) But also things that appear to be true apes running around on all fours, as well as your Loup Guru/Werewolf things.
As for PNW Sasquatch moving deep south... I don't see how it is possible. The Pacific Northwest has all kinds of underground lava tubes and caves all through the Cascades and maybe they connect to what is in the Sierra-Nevadas... But then the whole topography changes to Salt Flats and deserts. That is quite a distance to cross without cover.
Back when I was Stationed at Ft.Lewis and drove home to Fort Worth on leave, I hated making that trip. Once you pass San Fransisco, it's endless miles of Nothing up until you reach L.A. then more endless miles of nothing once you connect from I-5 to I-10 and from I-10 to I-20 you do not see any vegetation until you pass the Permian Bason. Then you slowly start to see Mesquite Trees that start out sparse and get a little more thicker as you go along until finally your in the more lush cross-timbers Oak/Cedar region. It takes forever to get out of the desert by car.. I can't imagine these creatures doing it by foot every season.
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Re: More reports of Sasquatch Aggression in the South?
I don't know the numbers for aggressive encounters down south vs elsewhere but maybe by chance there have been more encounters in the south when they just happen to have their young around.
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