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Troll Biology 101

Post  Tzieth on Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:10 pm

Anyone actually still go to the blog? I do not need to say it because we all know... But the blog is way past the point of tolerant. It seems there are now more Trolls there than "Footer's" and true skeptics combined.

These cowards could easily be wiped out of the equation by simple registration, but that does not look like it is going to happen. I am sure there is a valid reason for this but I see the trolls now resorting to something even lower than the personal attack cheap-shots... They are now resorting to plain Disinformation.

"AnonymousThursday, October 25, 2012 7:01:00 AM PDT
Again, more total bullshit to stretch for existence of sasquatch.
After seeing the vids of Justin and Ro (post bong of course) playing guitar then Smeja discussing the new "juvenile photo", we know its all bullshit. Ketchum closed, Cliff Barakman was exposed by the Elbe fiasco, and there is no hope of proof for Bigfoot.

Can we talk now about Mokele M'Bembe or Dogman or unicorns?"


How would this statement look to someone new to the blog?

So a sketch is now a "photo"? Ketchum selling her building is, "shutting down"?... Lets not entertain the idea that she may have been simply relocating. Oh and Cliff who was not fooled by the Elbe tracks was "exposed"?

That was from "Wildlife official: Latest Texas Bigfoot photo is probably a hog [Video]"

But I did find something interesting... These trolls are also reading the forum. On the topic "Here's What Early Man Really Looked Like", I made a comment that was immediately followed by a personal attack.

Tzieth Wednesday, October 24, 2012 3:07:00 PM PDT
"Anonymous Wednesday, October 24, 2012 3:22:00 AM PDT
But remember - you ARE Sasquatch. Just don't ask why early man looks nothing like Sasquatch."

Because these models are complete B.S. Not a single one of them even accurately shows the shape of the Bone structure. All of them have the torsos looking like ours when ALL of them had A-framed Ape torso's.

Their Neanderthal has eyes too small, arms too short and has a forehead... This is the work of experts? lol

Hell don't take my word for it, look up the skeletons of all these guys and see for your selves.

Delete

Anonymous Wednesday, October 24, 2012 4:40:00 PM PDT
^^^^^^^Loves Lloyd Pye all up in his taterhole, Anunnaki style!


Why would this guy even say this unless he was reading the UFO part of the forum? lol

In the first case, no one even bothered to challenge the troll because he was obviously baiting.

So lets play their own game against them. If they want to call us out on the blog, lets call them out in the forum. If we see a stupid troll comment, then lets dissect it over here. Especially if it is blatant disinformation or lies. Lets see if they are as Ballsy when they can no longer hide behind Anonymous titles. Twisted Evil
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Why bother

Post  Gingera on Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:24 am

I am way past worrying about these friendless, braindead trolls who are little more than sorry excuses for humanity. They only prosper when they succeed at baiting anyone or even getting ANY response. Ignoring them is the simplest pain free way to deal with them. Its a bit like trying to argue with a drunk who is mostly operating with an impaired brain function. The right to free speech is always confused with what some think is a licence to insult, demean and abuse other people. The one thing guaranteed to send them in a apopletic fit is to simply ignore them by remaining silent. Interacting with them at any level only lowers your own self esteem, viz. "Why did I allow myself to get sucked into that?". Mostly you are seeing psychologically inadequate or disturbed people so why on earth would you hope or expect to have a normal conversation with their likes. Send them to Conventry - It will drive them crazy and that is what they justly deserve.

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Re: Troll Biology 101

Post  Tzieth on Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:47 am

Gingera wrote:I am way past worrying about these friendless, braindead trolls who are little more than sorry excuses for humanity. They only prosper when they succeed at baiting anyone or even getting ANY response. Ignoring them is the simplest pain free way to deal with them. Its a bit like trying to argue with a drunk who is mostly operating with an impaired brain function. The right to free speech is always confused with what some think is a licence to insult, demean and abuse other people. The one thing guaranteed to send them in a apopletic fit is to simply ignore them by remaining silent. Interacting with them at any level only lowers your own self esteem, viz. "Why did I allow myself to get sucked into that?". Mostly you are seeing psychologically inadequate or disturbed people so why on earth would you hope or expect to have a normal conversation with their likes. Send them to Conventry - It will drive them crazy and that is what they justly deserve.

Well said... But the problem here is disinformation. I am thinking of people new to the blog who may stumble across things similar to what I posted above.
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Trolls and Troll Behavior -- Not scaring this Newbie!

Post  PineNeedle on Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:46 am

Tzieth wrote:

Well said... But the problem here is disinformation. I am thinking of people new to the blog who may stumble across things similar to what I posted above.

Hey Tzieth, I'm relatively new and I read a whole lot more than I write so I'll comment on your comment about newbies and disinformation.

The topic of Bigfoot (UFOs and anything strange/unusual) is so broad, subjective, observationally-based, etc. that I doubt any enthusiast or information seeker would read/watch just one Forum. I zip all over the web and read/watch stuff from quacks, hoaxers, scientists, storytellers, blah blah. From that I develop my own opinions and beliefs.

What I find very unique about this site in general are the following:
- Love the early a.m. daily twitter updates
- Love the daily postings (even if they are shared from another site, old and revived, etc.)
- Love the preview photo with an introductory blurb then the option to "read more"
- Love the balance between "what do you think", "debunked", "scientific progress"
- Love the intelligence level and writing skills of the Forum members
- Love the thought-provoking threads, the open question threads, the experience threads, etc.

Having said all that -- I have two points to share -- and I frequent other forums on totally different topics so I am familiar with Trolls and Troll behavior.

#1: Any serious BigFoot enthusiast/reader/poster "should be" assimilating news, stories, films from a variety of sources and not just information from one site or one source. (So disinformation, snarky comments, denigrating comments, etc. are just part-in-parcel of any research on a controversial/mysterious subject ... like BigFoot. I for one don't think any less of this site for having Trolls. Actually, I think it is a compliment to this site. See Point #2.)

#2: The most reputable SITES and POSTERS always attract Trolls. Sometimes Trolls target a site to accomplish an agenda like making the site less reputable, less busy, etc. Most often Trolls target key posters that are reputable or are good writers or are frequent posters or are veteran posters or are publicly real-life known posters. (So don't worry about the Trolls -- they are easily identifiable and easily ignored!).

So I hardly post and then this Whopper. Surprised
Maybe I just proved I'm NOT a Troll. geek

Have a Great Friday and Great Weekend everyone!!
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Re: Troll Biology 101

Post  dingo3497 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:39 pm

I still check out the site, but I was glad to find this one to discuss current events about bigfoot. The other site is overrun by trolls. I never understood why these people do what they do.
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Re: Troll Biology 101

Post  Green911 on Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:55 am

I don't even look at the posts from the articles on the site, too many people making unsubstantiated comments, or just out to pick a fight.

I enjoy the discussions here on the forum, though sometimes intense, really provide me with good information for thought. Though I do see trollish behavior at times, most people just ignore it and move on.

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Re: Troll Biology 101

Post  Tzieth on Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:11 pm

Green911 wrote:I don't even look at the posts from the articles on the site, too many people making unsubstantiated comments, or just out to pick a fight.

I enjoy the discussions here on the forum, though sometimes intense, really provide me with good information for thought. Though I do see trollish behavior at times, most people just ignore it and move on.

elephant

It's not the behavior in it's self that I find detrimental. The Trolls that do come here are pretty much kept in check.. We know who they are and they are far more polite when they can't hide under "Anonymous". As bad as StankApe was over here, look at how he acts over there. Blog StankApe makes forum StankApe look like a saint. And over there he tends to back up his main S/N's by using Anonymous S/N's to pretend that he is different people. (It shows in his wording and Vocabulary and behavior.)

For the most part, people ignore the cheap personal attacks. The problem is when they start chiming off unconfirmed or flat out untrue things. Brand new people are not going to notice the forum right off. And as someone here suggested, "Look at many sights for bigfoot news." That does not really work either. The only thing worse than Anti-Bigfoot trolls are Bigfoot Believer Trolls. Each sight has it's own philosophy as to what it thinks Bigfoot is and they tend to not report things that do not follow their description. Guys looking for a coned headed peaceful giant are not going to bother reporting round-headed vicious HB's with claws and fangs. (Like many deep south reports.) Or people looking for apes(Like Matt Moneymaker) do not care about evidence that suggests more human like behavior. This site is completely unbiased and you get news from all fronts.

In the case of Melba Ketchum, I noticed that the mudslinging of Trolls became more vicious when RL "leaked" that her findings suggested "Human". That was about the time I stumbled onto the blog. The Erickson Projects website went offline and I was looking for news as to what happened and I found the link here.

My suggestion isn't to post every stupid thing a Troll says (That would be endless) Only things that seem to be flat out disinformation or lies. This way we can counter it so that people new to the site can see the counter argument for themselves.

Once the "DNA States they are Human" thing came out, it was "Ketchum is a crackpot!" Followed by insane claims of things she supposedly said or did. I really knew nothing of Ketchum except for some dispute i read about between her and Adrian Erickson but I am one who has to analyze everything. (But that is just me.) So I back tracked and looked for everything Ketchum ever said or did on record and found that most of that crap that was stated was either untrue, or taken out of context.

It's like that old Rod Stewart rumor we all heard back in back High-school. Or the Richard Geer one.(My Generation X anyway) You hear these things so much that you begin to assume they are true.

It's the same thing when anything about the P/G film is mentioned. "Patterson was a Con-Artist and a crook." But when you search the guys criminal record, he only had one warrant for his arrest and that was for keeping the very camera that he rented to film Patty for a month after it was due back. He returned the camera and the charges were dropped. So they base their claims on the words of people who knew Roger Patterson and did not like him. (We all have enemies merited or not.) But this is the sort of damage disinformation does.
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